What is actually wrong with meal replacement shakes?

Discussion in 'Nutrition and Supplements' started by Timmy Boy, Jul 30, 2017.

  1. Mushroom

    Mushroom Goes well with everything Moderator Supporter

    I'm probably not the best when it comes to restricting food diets etc.
    (Kinda broke all the time...impulsive, junk food junkie..)

    But it comes to willpower when I have to. I recently went from 95kg to 85kg in about 2 weeks.
    I would say "simply" but it wasn't actually that simple, I went back to my original wrestling diet which was about 1200 calories maxing out around 30 g of carbs (this did not include any leafy greens).
    Everything that I ate I made myself so I had a better idea of what was going in my body. However I did try to have a protein shake for lunch rather than food and that really hurts my insides, not sure why that happened. It could be that I have not had a protein shake for quite a while or that my IBS was acting up.
    Either way I went back to having physical food after some unpleasant (not safe to post/describe) issues.

    I understand people's dietary choices are their own. I know quite a few where they dont see food as something to enjoy but simply as fuel for the body.
    People like CT Fletcher for example, unable to quote him completely but he essentially says.. "its not for me to have it taste good, its to give me strength" (paraphrasing, just add a lot of profanity and you'll get the idea).

    But I myself am clearly a food driven person. Even when calorie restricting to cut weight for a comp, I would plan my meal 1 day at a time.

    This is my mental prep, to keep my mind off hunger. When I'm pushing through my mental boundary on the treadmill, soaked in my fleece and hoody. I dont have a motivational speech going in my head.
    I'm actually thinking of what ingredients to buy, what to cook up and how many calories it may be...am I counting the macros wrong, where can I research how much cal is there is a broccoli. Does adding sesame oil in the pan count more/less than olive oil.
    Stuff like that.
    Next thing I know, I'm 10mins deeper into my cardio workout.

    In between training and meals (ie Life and Work) all I'm thinking about is the competition (and of course, Life and Work).

    I personally don't think I can live on a liquid shake diet. But thats my own preference, in fact I'm slowly researching the idea of going more veggie as I get older. But in the mean time...
    I will be marinading chicken in buttermilk and siracha mix till tender, drip dry then cover it in panko breadcrumbs and stick in the oven. Served with a side of blanched cauli/broccoli flourettes. And maybe some grilled corn.
     
  2. Mushroom

    Mushroom Goes well with everything Moderator Supporter

    That was literally half of what I ate in that place post comp.
     
  3. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth

  4. Morik

    Morik Valued Member

    I'm curious how much coffee you use in ratio to the water? I've been mixing in a teaspoon of raw cacao & a teaspoon of Ceylon cinnamon & it tastes like a somewhat oatey chocolate shake, overall surprisingly pleasant (I didn't really care for the base vanilla flavor on its own).
    I usually have a ~16oz cup of unsweetened black tea with it, and then if I want more caffeine I have a cup of coffee when I get to work.
    But mixing coffee in instead of some of the water might be an interesting experiment to see if I like that better.

    I've found that I actually prefer Huel fresh, rather than after it sits overnight in the fridge; it stays thinner and drinks more like water, rather than being thicker like a milkshake.
     
  5. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    I'm aware the makers of Huel have invested much time, energy and money into putting their product through stringent food quality testing; they have batches that carry the Informed Sport anti-doping seal of approval for example. But to stress once again - Huel is food, it isn't a meal replacement.

    I keep the water:Huel ratio the same and add 1-2 tbsp of a decent coffee brand into the mix. Tastes great.
     
  6. Morik

    Morik Valued Member

    Ah so you add the ground coffee directly, you aren't brewing coffee and mixing it instead if water?
     
  7. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth

    That's definatly just a semantic argument.

    Huel may very well be great, but it's a new product that people take in place of other meals, so yes it is a food, and yes it is a meal replacement as well.


    As an example from the homepage on huel.Com

    "Huel is a nutritionally complete product and is therefore a suitable option for a meal replacement"
     
  8. Morik

    Morik Valued Member

    I think in the US (not positive though) that "meal replacement" has certain requirements, and "food" has a different set of requirements which are stricter.
    I.e., Van Zandt may be indicating that it meets the stricter definition.
     
  9. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth

    Huel advertising has got the words food all over it, it's trying to not be seen as a meal replacement. But yet still that's what it is.
     
  10. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    Forgive me if I'm guilty of false equivalency here, but by that logic any foodstuff that comes pre-packaged is a meal replacement. And Huel has been sold for nearly 2.5 years so it's not exactly brand new.
     
  11. Mushroom

    Mushroom Goes well with everything Moderator Supporter

    What I consider a "meal replacement" is anything synthetic either in a liquid or pill form that simply contains the base nutrients, whilst dense enough to stave off your hunger.

    So you got the myprotein shakes etc - which I consider as meal replacement items.

    Blending 4 chicken breasts in water - like how some bodybuilders do - I would put in the "real meal" box, as you would still need to cook it etc. The only difference is the ingestion method.
     
  12. Simon

    Simon The Bulldog Admin

    Special omelette and chips from the local takeaway.

    Follow that with Ben & Jerry Caramel Chew Chew ice cream.

    Nom nom nom.
     
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  13. CamToolin

    CamToolin New Member

    honestly, is there a substitute for real food?
     
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