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Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Discussion' started by thinkingbody, Oct 9, 2017.

  1. Morik

    Morik Well-Known Member Supporter MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Do both you & your sparring partner use the same equipment? (MMA gloves on both of you?)
    I'm curious in general terms how that has gone; any broad observations based on your experience?
     
  2. Latikos

    Latikos Valued Member

    So you base that profound opinion on - nothing again?
    Not done any of it before?

    I trained with Dan Bian on MAP and the moment where hitting came into play he seemed to know his way; my face was of that opinion anyway, when I wasn't paying enough attention.
    (I'm mentioning the not paying attention part, because it was no sparring; and I'm rather sure it was good for me ;) )
     
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  3. El Medico

    El Medico Valued Member

    No kiddin'! I'll have to ask my CMA teachers what non CMA systems they stole timing and distance from!

    Any range where one can do something to the opponent is "optimal" range at that moment.Tho' some people get so constipated they'll say if you're not touching the opponent previous to whatever you execute you're "not doing T'ai Chi".

    That's odd,'cause Yip's Slant Style WC was supposed to be a system stripped down to enable the fastest fighter production method. Or at least that was the marketing when I was younger.

    TC was neve intended as a "grad" system. The only CMA I know of with any credible history that was presented as a grad system,or at least required a basic level of competency in some martial system is Pa Kua.
     
  4. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Marketing being the operative word :)

    Correct - none of the systems were INTENDED to be as such (and I am also quick to point out that I also said "to me" because this is not definitive history) but the evolution and progression has meant that they have certainly become that.

    Many years ago I made the case that using the very broad and inaccurate "external vs internal" descriptors they start at opposite ends and meet in the middle...one has a more direct route that does not promise all the fighters will have supreme form and one has supreme form that does not promise the practitioners they will be able to fight - the very good at either intersect
     
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  5. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Yep the only southern art I can think of being seen as that way would be Pak mei, simply because of how many master CLC beat and became his students lol

    May be Hannibal meant from his experience with Chinese arts I'm not sure, but classifying a system which claim to fame was roof top slap vests between kids as a grad system when other arts were being used by the military, police and tongs to settle differences is a bit strange
     
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  6. Dan Bian

    Dan Bian Neither Dan, nor Brian

    We both wear gloves and a mouth guard.
    What sort of observations are you looking for?
     
  7. Morik

    Morik Well-Known Member Supporter MAP 2017 Gold Award

    I'm curious about how a fight/sparring session of CMA vs MMA would look/flow/feel compared to just MMA vs MMA.
    Are you attacking at angles and with techniques the MMA person is unused to/doesn't know how to handle effectively? Is the MMA person attacking at angles/with techniques that you are unused to/weren't sure how to handle effectively?

    I am a Muay Thai beginner and haven't done much sparring. But I'm starting to get used to the angles & types of attacks that my partners throw from doing pad-work.
    I imagine it would be a different experience though, sparring with someone who is using CMA or FMA, for instance.
    The attack patterns, common combos, common things to watch out for (e.g., attacking the head as a distraction to get a kick through, kick feints, and all sorts of other things I'm not knowledgeable about yet), would be different, I assume.

    Or would a video of you two sparring look pretty similar to regular MMA vs MMA sparring?
     
  8. thinkingbody

    thinkingbody Valued Member

    I've never competed in a striking martial art.

    You could be correct, I will have to give it a go some time and report back, otherwise it will just be me theorising.
     

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