Candlestick throw?

Discussion in 'Wrestling' started by Mangosteen, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Valued Member

    I thought it was a lateral drop personally....


     
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  2. Mangosteen

    Mangosteen Hold strong not

    I always thought a lateral toss has to go heavy on the back arch with chest to chest contact?

    But some of the lateral drops in the video looked like Billys.
     
  3. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    That's going to the far armpit as the "effort" part of the lever. The Dragon Screw in all the catch videos was "effort" and "pivot" on the near arm (trapping and the uppercut motion to the same arm. not trapping the near arm and doing the uppercut motion to the opposite arm). Same principle, different application.
     
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  4. Mushroom

    Mushroom Goes well with everything Moderator Supporter

    I always called it a Deep Arm Drag TD. But thats only from my Pro Wrestling fanboy-ness.

    I've used that throw as a counter to the Russian/2on1. But i rarely pull off the throw
     
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  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal Angriest MAP resident.... Supporter

    I did it against a roundhouse kick once....true story!
     
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  6. Mushroom

    Mushroom Goes well with everything Moderator Supporter

    *needs video
     
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  7. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Lateral drop is simply a sacrifice throw you drop under them and your momentum and gravity do the rest, different arm position to the throw in the video, so different fulcrum but the principle is the same
     
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  8. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    The more logical approach is when you attack one of your opponent's legs, if he resists, you should attack

    - his other leg , or
    - the same leg in reverse direction.
     
  9. Mangosteen

    Mangosteen Hold strong not

    Thanks
    Most my wrestling experience comes from training with a free and folkstyle guy geared toward sub wrestling. He gave things weird names as I think his coach came up with funky names and it just got passed down
     
  10. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Yep normally as in the video pip posted its a reaction throw push into them and as they push back fall under them and steering wheel them with our arms so lift with the under hook and pull with the over hook and over they go
     
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  11. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Bst posted a clip on YouTube of the throw of a 2 on 1 hope this works Bst Academy
     
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  12. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu Supporter

    I'd love to see that! I bet with the moment that would send them flying.

    Looks like a fun through, shame I never did that in judo/wrestling.
     
  13. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member



    The moment that you use sacrifice throw, you lose your momentum and you have to commit to the ground game. When you get under hook, you don't need to use sacrifice throw. You can use

    - hip throw,
    - leg lift,
    - leg spring,
    - leg break,
    - ...

    For example, here is "under hook leg spring".

     
  14. Hannibal

    Hannibal Angriest MAP resident.... Supporter

    When the aim is to pin why would you?
     
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  15. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    When you use "under hook" to pin your opponent's arm. Your opponent can also use "over hook" to pin your arm. The chance is 50-50.

     
  16. Hannibal

    Hannibal Angriest MAP resident.... Supporter

    Thats wrestling though....the whole point is to get them down and pin them...saying "you commit to go to the ground" as critique of a technique seems a little awry when that is the stated purpose
     
  17. Mangosteen

    Mangosteen Hold strong not

    Depends on by how wrestling style no?
    Does Chinese wrestling have ground work?
     
  18. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    No but judo and western wrestling which this thread seems to be talking about do, and in their context that takedown makes perfect sense
     
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  19. Hannibal

    Hannibal Angriest MAP resident.... Supporter

    My point precisely :)
     
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