What size needle/syringe should I use to drain ear?

Discussion in 'Injuries and Prevention' started by ShadowHawk, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. ShadowHawk

    ShadowHawk Valued Member

    To prevent cauliflower ear what size needle should be used to drain the ear?

    Thanks in advance
  2. righty

    righty Valued Member

    Sounds like a great question for your qualified medical professional.
  3. Llamageddon

    Llamageddon MAP's weird cousin Supporter

    You shouldn't use any needle. Someone qualified should.

    Also, why would you want to get rid of them? Look at wrestling, rugby etc. They have them for a reason. If they drained them, they'd only come back.
  4. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Haha, I recently contracted cauliflower ear, now that the initial pain is gone I feel I can live with it.
  5. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    I thought draining in some way kept the cauli ear under control and less painful?
    It won't stop you getting them if you keep training but they'll develop less painfully?
    Does it look like this?

  6. mattt

    mattt Valued Member

    A large gauge one, some people use insulin needles, though larger is better.

    If you want to do it make it quick, you have about 7-10 days before it starts solidifying and then you have to pull out solid clots, larger needle is better as you will be pulling out fluid plus small clots etc.

    Nothing wrong with doing it yourself or have a friend do it, but even though it shouldn't require saying DON"T SHARE NEEDLES.
  7. inthespirit

    inthespirit ignant

  8. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member

    SNAP inthespirit....

    I put that link up last time someone asked this question.

    OP it's best to do a search first as this question has been asked a few times before.

    Still you have the link and that's a start :' )

    If you aren't sure about things it is best to go see your GP (maybe with a copy of the info posted on the link? )

  9. inthespirit

    inthespirit ignant

    I just stalk and plagiarize :D
  10. ShadowHawk

    ShadowHawk Valued Member


    thanks guys appreciate it

    Mines is nowhere near how wrestlers get it, I train muay thai. I can just feel it coming soon :(
  11. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member


    This guy spoke at one of our rugby player dinners... funny thing was he said people had asked him if he wanted his ears lopped off so they wouldn't look so odd.... funny to hear a grown man sound like he was about to growl when he talked about this lol!

    Head gear/ear guards etc are your friends.. don't wait until it's too late : D

  12. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    I bought but never wore earguards in wrestling. Well I wore it once and my head got pulled around like crazy.

    Apparently cauliflowers can heal if caught very early, drained and a clamp placed on..but once you've got it, its inevitable as the walls have weakened and easier for it to get worse.

    Google image "Collosus" Thompson when he went up against Kimbo Slice...it was like someone got a golf ball and stuff it in his ear.
    And it popped after it took a hook.

    Sakuraba's cauliflower ear also came apart from when he did a shoot, grazed/rubbed the ear against the opponent's calf and it fell off!
  13. finite monkey

    finite monkey Thought Criminal

    Cheese sauce?
  14. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    There's a trend towards leeches in some circles, haven't seen any papers to support them though.
  15. Happy Feet Cotton Tail

    Happy Feet Cotton Tail Valued Member

    Not necessarily true, I was put off from seeing an ENT (ear nose and throat) specialist last year when I got cauli in May. I left the whole thing far too long because I kept being told that it wasn't worth having them drained as "it'd just come back".

    Eventually, I went to my GP to get a medical opinion, she sent me to the ENT and had it drained (bit painful but otherwise fine) and I've NEVER had a problem with my ears since. I had to stop training for a week, but otherwise I was absolutely fine.

    I now have a slight barely noticeable thickness in my left ear because I left it so long, but otherwise going to see a doctor and getting my ear drained was the best decision I could of made in that scenario.
  16. Llamageddon

    Llamageddon MAP's weird cousin Supporter

    That's interesting and certainly goes against what I thought. So how do they not come back, then? Surely you're putting your ears under the exact same stress as before, and you're getting rid of the (potential) scar tissue?
  17. Donny Oddlegs

    Donny Oddlegs New Member

    Assuming this isn't too presumptuous of me: is your desire to DIY due to a lack of appropriate level of medical insurance; time; or because you don't wish to bother a doctor about it? Something else maybe?

    It clearly isn't the answer you were looking for: the best possible advice is to go to your GP/Primary Care chappy; in some minor cases they may be abel to tap it themselves, or refer you to ENT if they can't. Likewise, don't leave it too long before you see somebody. If you can, when it happens, apply an ice pack ASAP — it's worth doing this as it should slow the collection of blood/oedema, thus diminish the possibility of infection, not mess up your ear so much, as well as offering a modicum of pain-relief.

    Obviously some people do like the resultant appearance of having been bashed in the ear a lot; but the potential long term trade-offs of this aren't so rewarding.
  18. Oddsbodskins

    Oddsbodskins Troll hunter 2nd Class

    I'm not familiar with the procedure, and to be honest don't know much about cauliflower ear itself, but if you're talking about draining fluid, I can't see how that would have an effect on scar tissue.
  19. Llamageddon

    Llamageddon MAP's weird cousin Supporter

    Maybe I'm barking, then!
  20. Donny Oddlegs

    Donny Oddlegs New Member

    Cartilage in the ear does not have its own blood supply, but receives it from the overlying tissue. As a result of trauma the ear suffers from a blow, inflammation, a hæmatoma or œdema can develop. If left untreated, it will eventually lead to the cartilage separating from the connective tissue (perichondrium) and skin, thus disrupting its blood supply. Without nutrients/blood, the cartilage dies and becomes fibrous and contorted. So by tapping/lancing the fluid, reducing inflammation (and treating infection), one is able to re-establish a blood supply to the cartilage, preventing scarring. A compression dressing also helps to once again bond the cartilage with overlying tissues.

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