I am starting this to help me figure things out, I would appreciate comment, assistant and being told I am wrong...that s assuming I am....and I never am so I am intrigued with Sun Style Taijiquan, and of the 5 families it is the one I know least about. I have learned a short form that was developed by someone outside of the Sun family (Li Deyin lineage). I have learned there is the competition form (see jump kicks) there is a "traditional form" that comes from Li Deyin (also see jump kicks, and there is a traditional form that comes from the Sun Family (see Sun Lutang and no jump kicks). I have also learned that it is not the same as the Yang I do, the Chen I did or the Wu I use to do. I also figured out I was doing the follow step way to soon. I was treating it like the JKD follow step, and it is very similar, but it is not as fast, because the form is not as fast as the moves in JKD. Slow that follow step down and where the power comes from become obvious. Do the follow step to soon and it become rather difficult to get any poer at all. Speed the whole dang thing up and there is the power and it gets very similar to JKD. Surprisingly I find a lot of similarities to JKD in Xingyiquan, even more surprising to me I found them in a Taijiquan form. Although, the fast form form Tung Ying Chieh also has a follow step, similar to JKD too On the Sun Lutang side of things there seems to be an awful lot of importance placed on Wuji standing And you do not get such an emphasis on Wuji in other styles, although Yang Chengfu did say more people should stand in Wuji because it is most important I suspect, and this is only my suspicion, that the emphasis on Wuji in Sun Style comes from Xingyiquan, which places a lot of emphasis on stance training. And since that was Sun Lutangs first marital art, it makes since, but again, this is pure speculation on my part. I will admit right now I purchased the entire set of Tim Cartmell's Sun style DVDs and I will be working with them. But fear not, when this whole shelter in place pandemic thing is over I hope to meet with a traditional Sun guy (Sun Lutang side of the equation) who lives and teaches about 4 hours west of me. As I try and figure out more, I hope to post more, but there may be a multi-week lag the starting the middle of next week.