Trump by name......

From the Nib today.

 

Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville

The full transcript of trumps recent speech.

 

That's the scenario that strikes me as more likely as well. There's nothing for North Korea to gain by nuking the us, or any of its territories, but I can see a desperate Trump doing something just like that.

 

Man if nukes start flying around in Asia, import bonsai are going to get a lot more expensive.

 

But then you get one that's fricken' irradiated, and it gives you super powers. Like, I unno', changing full sized things into miniature sized things or something. 0__0

 

There's footage of trump at an Ira fundraiser in NYC from years ago if you want to start talking about Anti UK groups being in power in the US.

But maybe you don't want to talk about supporting a pro terrorist president.

 

I won't embed it, because I don't remember if there was swearing or not, but I just watched "Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News Tonight on HBO" on youtube. There was a black woman saying that wherever you go in that town, you see the statue of a past slave master looking down on you. I think that's a good reason to tear it down. I recommend watching the Vice video too.

 

You're sliding into a strange appeal to authority here. I don't get your point, if I'm being honest.

 

Well, it was acceptable in America to help fund the IRA to blow up the British, at least in the East coast cities with large Irish populations, so that's not really so controversial, just hypocritical. I don't know if Trump is able to hold a political opinion for more than a matter of seconds, and doesn't seem to have any ideology outside of narcissism, so I guess he just saw an opportunity in the Sinn Fein fundraiser.

Donald Trump attended Sinn Féin fundraiser months before IRA attacked London

If this really comes down to a semantic argument about the word "mainstream", then it's not going to be a very productive debate. Could we at least agree that white nationalism is having a renaissance and becoming more mainstreaming the US? And that people like Bannon have been instrumental in this renaissance of white nationalism?

 

From an outside perspective that is exactly what is happening.
Trump has so many racist, anti-woman comments and is so lazy to speak out against racism or other racists, that it pretty much looks like that, just because he got voted into a position, where someone like him clearly doesn't have any use.

 

Talk radio isn't the main indicator of something being mainstream or not.

You said there were no Nazi where you live, I proved that was wrong.

My point is your president is a terrible human and an ineffective leader and people who support him, are terrible people too.

 

Yeah, I don't know if there are more racists in America today, but their organising power and communications via the internet have certainly increased. Charlottesville was the biggest white nationalist rally for a good number of years (maybe 15-20?). People like Bannon and David Duke, via the internet, are providing a more cohesive ideology to them too.

Christopher Cantwell said that he is deliberately copying leftist activists' tactics of direct action, because that builds the morale and cohesion needed to build group identity. They are also using the tactic of using internet networks to ship people in from around the country.

The white nationalists certainly seem more cohesive and organised than they were a few years ago, and they say that themselves.

 

I think the only thing Trump is is "pro-Trump". I think he'd sell his own Grandmother if it would give him an advantage. If it suits him one day to be prop-UK he will be. If the next day anti-UK will get him somewhere he'll be that.

 

I don't know about the laws in Virginia, but are you allowed to walk around with clubs and shields? I get that you're allowed to carry pistols and rifles 'cos freedom n' 'muricah and stuff...