This systema video

Better content, but basic level catch wrestling by someone who isn't a great wrestler.

 

Really only touches the surface. I would say the video goes for breadth rather than any depth.

Overall looked good. Locks and submissions aren't the goal for such work. Really it is about control and getting multiple bodies on the criminal, and doing so while avoiding bites and scratches, and preventing the criminal access to your duty belt/weapons.

I only saw one spot where a criminal could bite a vital area (the throat) or the fingers/thumb of the law enforcement officer, but I wasn't looking hard. Those would be warning points to me.

 

As for law enforcement clip, I like this one.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzjl4B9rWVQ"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzjl4B9rWVQ[/ame]

 

Now this I like. I would hate to be on the receiving end.

I sometimes wonder if the test dummy is a willing participant.

 

Basicly what knee rider said. I see it more of a marketing thing. Show and tell.

 

I like that video too. I would say good video of training, but not particularly for law enforcement.

Quite a few of the techniques demonstrated aren't necessarily very good for use against someone a lot bigger and stronger than the officer (unless you are making a movie :evil: )

Look at the techniques and ask yourself if they would work when tired with low blood sugar, as stamina is a major attribute for law enforcement on the front lines. Similar to military, long hours with little sleep and maybe not a chance to eat (so low sugar levels). You might get into an altercation, get out of it and then five minutes later get into a different one. Then take into account someone bigger and stronger that is motivated to get away.

So such things as verbal commands and exerting control using means in addition to just physical technique such as body language and positioning. What comes out of this is not the flashy stuff for law enforcement but subtle boring stuff that works, IMHO.

 

I believe that clip shows the training for "Chinese military police" (similar to US swat team). I had trained Austin police academy before. IMO, most of the regular cops are not in good physical shape at all.

 

Videos of police training around here are more like documentaries consisting of footage with narration.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2rjpiAkk9M"]SLCPD Recruit Class 127 Fight for Your Life Training - YouTube[/ame]

 

Stamina is different than being in condition, although they are related. Stamina is the ability to keep going even when fatigued.

I would say the majority of law enforcement and military I've trained with were not as skilled as I am. This isn't my observation, this is what I've been told by them. What the majority of the veterans had, however, was stamina and experience beyond mine.

I would take a police officer of five years on the streets over most martial artists of five years in a real world situation.

 

Nothing secret. Many things are different from CIMA. Plenty of pressure testing, at least in our school.

I think the OP is very "democentric", though I understand some of that is of him being asked to demo for some Korean military unit. I'd like to see him in a more freeform setting too

 

It's good. I mean it looks good. Aikido looks good. It's practically useless. Unless of course whoever you are in combat with stands still for you.

 

Just curious:

Was Systema used in both world wars by some Russian soldiers?

 

No

 

That's the hype they sell....it doesn't hold up to much scrutiny

Sambo is what you look at for Russian dudes

 

This is what you can do when you develop a core structure.

 

No this is what you can do when your partners fall over for you on command.

 

I think it is one of those things that if you don't see it, you don't know you don't know !. :bang:

 

Much like many other delusions and chicanery.

 

No, kind of the opposite of that, the word "see" is not to be taken literally.

 

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