At least they're all consistent, Pat. Like the Borg. I don't know if it's PTK or the people attracted to Gaje--it's like the chicken and the egg debate. He agreed with us, but at second glance decided to change position, now he's giving us this "there's more methodos" act. Sounds to me like Gaje's old trick of updating methodologies and technologies. It's either there or it's not anymore, it's that simple--he said it himself it's too difficult, people don't practice it anymore. Occam's razor. He's gonna surface again, be cheeky, get cornered, then ask for a "discussion", get cornered again, then hide and accuse us of disrespecting his teacher. And like a cherry on a sundae, he's gonna add he knows what we don't.