Theory of Internal Power (QiGong, Pranayama, Tenaga Dalam, etc.)

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  1. MouzalinaMahfud

    MouzalinaMahfud Valued Member

    Military Self Defense Skills

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  2. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    What absolute bollocks

    Try that against anyone with a pulse and you lose....badly.
  3. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    I cant help myself - I have to ask - why is the magic man in the video wearing wellies? Do they help him to focus his vibrations?
  4. MouzalinaMahfud

    MouzalinaMahfud Valued Member

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  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Pathetic parlor trick

    I would have happily shown what a load of crap it was, but your man dropped his bottle quicker than a greasy palmed milkman
  6. Mianbao shifu

    Mianbao shifu Just standing around

    Interesting speed difference between the two, not to mention weapon difference as well. Not to burst any bubbles here, but anyone coming at you with a bladed weapon will be moving a heck of a lot quicker than that.
  7. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    These videos are pathetic. Wake up and smell the roses.

    Last time I visited Mitch I did a magic trick for his two children. Next time I visit I have two further tricks in mind.

    The first is to open a completely new and sealed pack of cards, shuffle them and have the two children call out what colour they think each card is as I pull them out individually. As they call them I'll place them face down. The children will not see if they are correct.

    After the 52 cards have been called I'll turn them over and they will all be in order. 26 reds and 26 blacks.

    The second trick is to place 4 kings face up on the table.

    I'll leave the room and as the children to turn one card around.

    I'll return and tell them which card was turned.

    Both these tricks are similar to some of the nonsense posted, but I'm honest enough to say they are just that, tricks.

    The second trick is based on something called psychometry, which is a form of extrasensory perception characterized by the claimed ability to make relevant associations from an object of unknown history by making physical contact with that object.

    Like palmistry, reading tea leaves and mind reading, it's fake and no more than trickery.

    How about a challenge.

    You get a newly sealed pack of cards and I call out black or red for all 52. I can write the sequence out here before you start.

    You lay your shuffled deck out as I have called it in advance and see how you do.

    You will fail.

    I'll do it and succeed because I know how to shuffle the deck.

    You can do your tricks because you have set them up. It's why you all fail when it comes to Randi's tests.
  8. El Medico

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    MouzalinaMahfud Valued Member

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    Late for dinner Valued Member

  12. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

  13. MouzalinaMahfud

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  14. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    Mod note: Ok, everyone. Let's not get carried away with just posting links and remember to post commentary when posting video's.:)
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  15. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    MouzalinaMahfud, I think you keep posting more of the same thing and are missing the point.

    No one else here buys this "evidence", no matter how many of the same type of thing you post. Several here have posted what would be needed to convince them. Unless I have missed it, you have not posted anything of the type of evidence requested by members to change anyone's mind.
  16. MouzalinaMahfud

    MouzalinaMahfud Valued Member

    On November 17th, 2016 one of MP USA's Vibravision practitioner demonstrated for Dr. Johnathan Boster, O.D. and his staff. The blindfolds were inspected to ensure that no trickery was involved and then he proceeded to demonstrate color detection, color matching, reading out of a book and given an visual acuity test. As Dr. Boster says, "Vibravision is real".

    here the video
  17. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Post a video of a blindfolded practitioner actually fighting against a skilled and trained opponent in a full contact fight and then we'll talk.

    Everything else is just trickery as has been proved.

    This is a martial arts forum, not a place where videos are posted of coloured objects being thrown into a child's play hoop.

    Bottom line is can it fight.
  18. MouzalinaMahfud

    MouzalinaMahfud Valued Member

    how about you visit Merpati Putih Netherland ? we have MP Athlete in there, they will be your opponent, while blindfolded
  19. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Because I have no need to travel to fight a blindfolded person.

    The proof of burden is on you.

    Are you saying you only have one person capable of fighting.

    If it works then everyone can do it.

    You are only posting videos of people playing games.

    You need to show proof it can be done under pressure.

    I'm yet to see a good video of someone fighting without the blindfold, let alone with it.

    Sorry if this has already been posted and I missed it.

    So you can keep posting videos, but the fact remains that you cannot duplicate the results under test conditions.

    You'll certainly not be able to provide a fighter who can deal with someone aiming to take their head off.
  20. MouzalinaMahfud

    MouzalinaMahfud Valued Member

    shooting targets with AK47 (blindfolded)


    haha did you still referring those JREF test ? i told you before many times

    Randi doesn't debunk anything, he just create many obstacles to make the practirioners fails, he using electrical table to reduce the ability to absorb vibration and he wiped around the eyes of practitioners with antiseptic tissue that makes his eyes feels very sore.

    if i claim to be able walk on the tightrope and i can balance my body without any tools. Then Randi put an oil on that rope, do you think i still be able to walk on that tightrope ? ?

    Randi can not debunk anything from Vibravision, that's why he did not show it on television, he only show the case when he know the trick, and able to replicate the trick


    do not chicken out, even if i give you a fight video with blindfold on, you will still not believe in it, the only way is you test it your self, experience it yourself
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