The New Masters

Discussion in 'Karate' started by Mitlov, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. Gary - Enshin

    Gary - Enshin Valued Member

    Because someone famous does it, that doesn't mean it's alright.

    I've seen dozens of people over the years (and all over the world) stand with a worried look as they've had things demonstrated on them. Pain, blood and other damage often being the result.

    My feeling now is, "WHY?" What does it really demonstrate? Skill or sadism?

    Smacking into people with no 'right of reply' is just wrong IMO.

    Gary
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2010
  2. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    Re-quoted for emphasis.
     
  3. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    uh, when did i say it's alright?

    if you're comparing light slaps like what bertel does to sadism, then that makes the other guys masochists, because they were laughing their asses off

    if anything, it proves bertel's skill, since he can demonstrate his unorthodox techniques correctly without damaging the uke, while still showing that those techniques will work if you apply them correctly.
     
  4. Gary - Enshin

    Gary - Enshin Valued Member

    Each to their own. :confused:

    I'd be less than delighted if he slapped me like that ... :evil:

    Gary
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2010
  5. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LW-UgZECcY"]Andre Bertel teaching Asai Karate in Germany - YouTube[/ame]

    we MUST get bertel to join MAP :D
     
  6. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    What's Asai karate then? Looks just like shotokan - especially like KWF school.
     
  7. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    it's basically shotokan mixed with circular kung fu. asai chose to make his own lineage because supposedly he was having too much trouble "softening" the old school shoto guys, so he just made people practice as if it was a new style
     
  8. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4atSe-sVFLI"]YouTube- Entering Methods into Striking, Locking & Takedown[/ame]

    one more from troy price

    this dude is awesome
     
  9. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    That was very cool. Not only does he move like a greased weasel but he always seems to have a reduntant technique in case the first one doesn't have the desired effect. It's seems to me not unlike jwt's material.
     
  10. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    Ok I have to say I found that clip extremely interesting. Especially the low/high lines... and the methodology he went into of outside/inside (or back/front) @ 2:12 into the clip.
    What style is that and who is the guy?

    Background please. :)
     
  11. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    6th dan shuri-ryu karate (founded by robert trias), plus experience in jjj, bagua, tai chi, xing yi and god knows what else

    the youtube channel has a lot more clips from his seminars (plus purchase information, since they're snippets from dvds), and i think the guy who maintains the channel is a member here on map (shurileopard, same as the youtube profile)
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2010
  12. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

  13. gorinnosho

    gorinnosho Kendo Addict

    I'd say...
    Sports karate:
    Davide Benetello, Luca Valdesi, Wayne McDonald.
    Other stuff:
    Hanshi Patrick McCathy, Sensei John Cells, Prof George Alexander.

    A few influencial Karateka to me, that most could be called Modern day Masters.
     
  14. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5gjxu5Qp8g"]YouTube - SHOTOKAN Karate at Staten Island - 6 Years On.[/ame]

    his tsuki is epic. i would love to see him doing sochin.
     

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