The kata venting thread

Discussion in 'Karate' started by Llamageddon, Apr 6, 2011.

  1. bassai

    bassai onwards and upwards ! Moderator Supporter

    Don't think of the kata individually , rather in sets

    5 Heian
    3 Tekki
    3 Ji
    etc

    Then factor in the various sho and dai variations and the number comes down , personally i do think there are maybe too many kata , the sho and dai thing being a personal bugbear.
     
  2. GaryWado

    GaryWado Tired

    You guys getting into the ****ei Gata thing at all?

    That might add more requirement for vent.

    Gary
     
  3. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    The what now? :dunno:
     
  4. GaryWado

    GaryWado Tired

  5. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    haven't cared about ****eigata since i stopped competing, so no venting here :)
     
  6. GaryWado

    GaryWado Tired

    I'm with you there fella - but I think it is more than comp - in this case.

    Gary
     
  7. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    well, the two main ****o-ryu ****eigata, bassai dai and seienchin, are also the ones commonly required for the first dan grading, so for us at least focus on them isn't that much of an issue (of course, i have no idea if their being ****eigata is actually the reason they're done for shodan, but i doubt it). there's more of a problem when the version you do is not the same as the ****ei, but those two in particular change very little anyway, except some weird cases of massive mutation.
     
  8. GaryWado

    GaryWado Tired

    And I think that's the point.

    It's more about controlling the mutilation - during the teaching process.

    Keeping the core principles sound and - dare I say it, more recorded in the way they are transmitted.

    Of course this doesn't sit too well within the Shu-ha-ri spectrum of things, but hey, the Iaido/kenjutsu boys have done it.

    Gary
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2011
  9. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    So ****eigata are sorta "standardized" kata?
     
  10. GaryWado

    GaryWado Tired

    Yes.

    Some people hate that word and some embrace it.

    The key is a good instructor.

    Gary
     
  11. Blade96

    Blade96 shotokan karateka

    Trying to do kata in a small space that has about 20 people in it, is too warm, and you're very thirsty. Found it very distracting last night doing my kata. I couldn't concentrate. How do you do nice katas in such conditions.
     
  12. monkeywrench

    monkeywrench Valued Member

    Been there...done that.
    Our dojo is in an old warehouse that only recently got a modern (but still not sufficient!) a/c unit. Summers were *awful* and doing kata one right after the other was murder.

    Then we'd take a road trip to a seminar/testing and be working out in a cool place it and felt very weird!

    But now we have some semblance of coolness (try 90 degrees F instead of 100!) and an actual working water fountain, so all is well.
     
  13. Lorelei

    Lorelei Valued Member

    Tournament tomorrow - was going to do Sanseru but my left ankle is dodgy and my left knee went earlier this week. May have to change katas....... :mad:
     
  14. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    Hope it goes well. Want me to dig out my cheerleader's outfit?

    mitch :D
     
  15. Lorelei

    Lorelei Valued Member

    It's not pink is it? I wouldn't want to lose my breakfast...... :Angel:
     
  16. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    Big bald scouser in pink cheerleader's outfit? What's not to like?

    Go Lorelei! Go Lorelei!

    Mitch :D
     
  17. Blade96

    Blade96 shotokan karateka

    Good luck! Have fun! :)

    btw i loved tournaments.

    although i'm waiting to compete again til i get my orange belt.
     
  18. Lorelei

    Lorelei Valued Member

    I was stunningly bad - no balance at all (although my ankle held up pretty well, considering). I had to restart after an obvious wobble, then put my foot down in the wrong place after a kick on the second attempt (it was that, or fall on my face).

    Bizarrely enough, the rest of the kata wasn't so bad - if I can keep my balance while pivoting the supporting foot during the side kicks, under Tournament conditions, Sanseru isn't a complete write-off. Any tips on how to maintain balance during kata when my legs are shaking with nerves and I haven't slept properly for 3 nights?
     
  19. Blade96

    Blade96 shotokan karateka

    :(

    poor thing :(

    i wanted it to go well for you.
     
  20. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    @lorelei: vodka? maybe a bottle or five would do it :p
     

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