anyone know where the real training goes on? i am so sick of the one hour a day training and insane costs. isn't there any school out there where the training is 24/7 and you live there and the costs are bare mininum because the teachers actually want to teach those who seek it? location is not a matter. i'de go anywhere. the only school i have found close to what i am looking for is the "northern china shao lin martial arts academy" (www.shaolins.com) in Ye He Ancient Castle, Ji Lin Province, northern China near siping city. but it's is too expensive. money blows, isn't there a teacher who will teach because of a person's desire and not by how much money he has in his wallet? be strong those of us who are poor, for the rich may be rich with material but they are poor in spirit while we are full of it. peace
If ur looking to go abroad, ans actualy live abroad to train theres alwasy the shaolin temple.Altho it's quetionable how much of what they teach there is actualy what the shaolin moks origianlly praticed.As it is a devise of the communist overnment for money through tourism.That's not to say there training isn't stupidly hard and effective.I think it's about about £200 to rain there for a year whihc i thnk includes food and accomadation.But that's taught on alrge scale. Similarly there is the wudan schools which cost roughly the same.I don't know much about their validty or training methods.fpr about the sme price. As for INTENSIVLY hard training (I don't know about shaolin etc but i do knok more about this place.)TRy to fnd a site for he Honbu i Tokyo.They do a one year course in yoshikan aikido for 5 hours a day trainign (plus extra maintance tasks), 5 dasy a week (but u can train six days if u wish).This is a hard course and only gor teh serious martial artist. It is used to train the tokyo riot police.At the end u aquire a black bekt in yoshikan aikido,and instructors liscence and alot of injurys. I know ther big weel known, world known places but just thought i'd sugest them.
Sounds like you need to get a life mate. There are WAY more important things in life than spending 24/7 learning martial arts.
martial arts is a way to life. i do not expect you to understand that, or what the real important things in life are mate.
Thanks. I would tend to agree with yoda tho. If ur gona study full time only do it for a few a years at most.Then u can continue with a more normal training schedule. Martial arts are great but there are more important things in life that people should experience.I guess most MA masters would agree. I personally wouldn't ever train full time unless for a very short time (eg week long seminar) If u r deadly serious then go for.But not for the whole of ur life.That would be considered by many as wasting it (including me).
So while you are getting your free training from the teacher how is he supposed to earn the money to support his family? If you want 24/7 training in how to fight for free, join the army.
L0ST 5OUL; The only thing I can offer is to try seaching "uchi deshi" programs. Might not be exactly what you are after but its the closest thing that I know of other than getting together w/ fellow students every chance that I get. Take Care DavidM
Probabaly a better course of action.I've been told that angry white pyjamas doesn't mention some very tough parts of the training by someone wh went through it.
Here is an old Zen story that might offer some perspective. A martial arts student went to his teacher and said earnestly, "I am devoted to studying your martial system. How long will it take me to master it." The teacher's reply was casual, "Ten years." Impatiently, the student answered, "But I want to master it faster than that. I will work very hard. I will practice everyday, ten or more hours a day if I have to. How long will it take then?" The teacher thought for a moment, "20 years."
You could well be right Sub Zero but it sounds tough enough in the book even without these extra very tough parts!
Gojuman; I've herd that story as well, but w/ two additional lines. ....... The student asks, "how can it take longer if I work harder to learn it faster?" The master replies, " the more attention you focus on the goal the less you have for training." Or something like that.
I think it's better without the punchline Cal. Explain the story and people don't read it, they skip to the end.
That stories on the inisde of my jj liscence.Buy that master replies something like "If u have your eye on the goal and not the p[ath infron tof you, then you shall shurly trip and fall."
