MMA vs Taiji Fight

Discussion in 'Kung Fu' started by icefield, May 4, 2017.

  1. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member

  2. Dan Bian

    Dan Bian Neither Dan, nor Brian

    I'll have a punt!!

    It'll save me a trip to the dentist! :p
     
  3. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    My Sifu has accepted the Challenge....we will see if he gets contacted
     
  4. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Glad that's in the open, at least here, as I so wanted to say. "I know something you don't know."
     
  5. Madao13

    Madao13 Valued Member


    Is he a tai chi guy or a practitioner of some other traditional kung fu style?

    I checked him out after your first post and the guy comes from a sanda backround.
    He sells himself as a shaolin monk, but that seems to be just PR.

    His crowning achievement is beating an over the hill Buakaw in one random kick-boxing promotion.

    Having said that, I am sure he is tough as nails and he would kill the self-taught mma dude,
    but that wouldn't have anything to do with traditional CMAs, right?
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2017
  6. Matt F

    Matt F Valued Member

    This kind of thing ,to me, comes down moving to be effective v moving to look a certain way.
    All humans when moving to be effective..run,climb, jump, fight...move fundamentally the same and look similar.
    Which is why a full contact fight of any kind always favours the person not trying to look like a certain style, but just trying to be effective.

    To be fair Chinese styles contain a lot of sound principles that if taken on board in a more relaxed manner and not forced to look a certain way can be effective. But they are principles that styles or anyone who fights will have also because humans that fight come to the same conclusions. Treating Chinese styles as special and mystical and forcing a Chinese style look is where it goes wrong.
    It's hard for people to get their heads around.
     
  7. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    How much Tai Chi have you done?
     
  8. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    There will be a video going up soon too!
     
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I have used it in a real confrontation too! DRUNK RUSSIANS FOR THE WIN!!!
     
  10. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    You fight as you train.

    It's easy to knock Tai Chi, especially if you've not trained in it.

    I'd remind everyone that a certain Conor McGregor defeated an MMA fighter with one punch.

    Didn't hear anyone saying that guy's style sucked.
     
  11. EdiSco

    EdiSco Likes his anonymity

  12. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    That's simply not true.

    For example:

    - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/athletics/10309714/The-secrets-of-Mo-Farahs-success.html
     
  13. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Yes and no. I can use Wing Chun when I'm sparring. Stylistically you can tell it's WC. It's not hard. You can see Judo players using Judo too....
     
  14. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Has he decided what he'll spend the money on yet?
     
  15. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

  16. El Medico

    El Medico Valued Member

    Anyone trying to look a certain way deserves the broken jaw.:D

    There may be some,but I've never known any TC guys who spar seriously and/or compete in/outside the ring who try to have a "look". They have more brains than that.

    At least we did.

    P.S.-as for that guy,he didn't have a Chinese system look about him-he just looked like a clueless wonder!
     
  17. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Yes, you will always have general guidelines for amateurs. That's the nature of things when there isn't the one-on-one focus and attention on the individual.

    However, professional athletes in many disciplines at the top of their game use techniques quite different from other top-level competitors.
     
  18. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

  19. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member

    Interestingly I think that the research suggests that much of the ''core'' focused training e.g. pilates and stuff like on your link doesn't produce better results than more traditional generalised training. There is always the question of why pay more for ''specialised'' systems or equipment when the end results are no better.

    It does interfere with lots of people's' incomes so there is lots of resistance to this idea.

    LFD
     
  20. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    You're more qualified than me to comment, but I'd say that anyone talking about "natural ways of moving" has never spent any time looking at the huge variety of gait.
     

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