[Korea] numbers in Korean

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  1. Darkflames21

    Darkflames21 New Member

    i heard from my instructer that there are two way to count in korean. The other set is used in forms. can anybody tell me the set of numbers that are used in forms?
     
  2. neryo_tkd

    neryo_tkd Valued Member

    Counting in Korean with Pure Korean Words

    Hana one
    Tul two
    Set three
    Net four
    Tasot five
    Yosot six
    Ilgob seven
    Yudol eight
    Ahop nine
    Yeol ten
    Yeol Hanna - eleven
    Yeol Tul - twelve
    Yeol Set - thirteen
    SeuMool - twenty
    SeuMool hanna - twenty one
    SeuMool tul - twenty two
    SoReun - thirty
    MaHeun - forty
    Sheen - fifty
    YeSoon - sixty
    IlHeun - seventy
    Yudoon - eighty
    Aheun - ninety
    Bak - hundred

    The other numbering system (which is of Chinese origin) is used in most other cases and is often used where Americans would use ordinal numbers. For example, this second numbering system is used when describing a person's rank: a first degree black belt would be an "il dan".

    1 : il
    2 : ee
    3 : sahm
    4 : sah
    5 : oh
    6 : ryook
    7 : chil
    8 : pal
    9 : koo
    10 : ship
     
  3. Darkflames21

    Darkflames21 New Member

    but when my master says the first form, he goes taeguek il jan. what is the jan part?
     
  4. neryo_tkd

    neryo_tkd Valued Member

    every form has its name and symbolism...il jang...ie jang....etc

    u can find all that online...so sit down one day and do some reading....


    Il-jang represents the KEON, which is symbolized by the heavens and light. This form represents the source of creation by presenting the most basic techniques. It, therefore, is the foundation from which the other forms build. Il-jang

    E-jang

    E-jang represents the TAE, which symbolizes strength of the mind. This represents a frame of mind which is serene and gentle, yet firm within the state from which true virtue smiles. This form consists of movements that are made softly yet firmly with control. E-jang

    Sam-jang

    Sam-jang represents the RI, Ri represents the characteristics of sun, fire, and light, light warmth, enthusiasm, and hope. Like fire, this form is filled with changing burst of power connected with a continuous flow of motion. Sam-jang

    Sa-jang

    Sa-jang represents the JIN. Thunder, combined with lightning, evokes fear and trembling but reminds us that danger, like a thunderstorm, passes as suddenly as it comes, leaving blue sky, sunshine, and rain freshened air in its wake. It teaches to act calmly and bravely in the face of loud and terrifying dangers, real or imagined, knowing that they, too, shall pass. Sa-jang

    Oh-jang

    Oh-jang represents the SEON which is Wind. Although there are horrible and destructive winds, such as the typhoon, hurricane, and tornado, the wind's true nature is gentle but penetrating. The wind teaches humility and good-natured actions. Like a gentle breeze, this form is simple. Yet like a storm, it is strong and powerful. Oh-jang

    Yook-jang

    Yook-jang represents the GAM. Water always flows downward and, in time, can wear away the hardest granite. We learn that we can overcome every difficulty if we go forward with self-confidence and persistence. Like water, this form is gentle yet destructive. It teaches that man, when faced with a challenge, can overcome it by persistence and unwavering belief. Yook-jang

    Chil-jang

    Chil-jang represents the GAN. A Mountain is stable and cannot be moved. This form teaches us to move only when it is necessary to move - and then move rapidly - and stop suddenly and solidly, standing like a rock. It teaches commitment to notion and to immobility, for one must not wavier. Chil-jang

    Pal-jang

    Pal-jang represents the GON. The earth is receptive, gentle and nurturing. It signifies the infinite concentration of UM energy (UM is a passive, receptive force). The earth hugs and grows everything. It nurtures in silence and in strength. It teaches us the importance of the life force within ourselves and to respect life in all of its forms.
     
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  5. neryo_tkd

    neryo_tkd Valued Member

    - korean flag
    The circle in the center is called "Taeguk" and means the origin of all things in the universe. The red and blue paisleys within the circle represent eternal duality (heaven-earth, fire-water, good-evil, male- female, dark-light, life-death). The blue portion of the circle is called "um" and represents the negative aspects of this duality; the red portion of the circle is called "YANG" and represents the positive aspects. "Um-yang" is the Korean equivalent of "yin-yang".

    - ''jang : similar to a page or a chapter ''
     
  6. Darkflames21

    Darkflames21 New Member

    i what was lost now is found. thanks for the info and a lot more.
     
  7. neryo_tkd

    neryo_tkd Valued Member

    sure, no problem, was glad to help :) :) :)
     
  8. Tosh

    Tosh Renegade of Funk

    Excellent post neryo! Just as an additional the most commonplace you will find this numbering system is the description of "set" sparring;

    1 step sparring = il -bo-matsogi
    2 step sparring = ee-bo-matsogi
    3 step sparring = sam-bo-matsogi
     
  9. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    In forms, the "jang" as in Tae-geuk Il Jang is merely a counter word, similar to the way we use "issue", "edition", or "chapter" in English. The han, dool, set... numbers are counting numbers (1, 2,3,..) and the Il, Ee, Sahm, Sa... are ordinals (First, Second, Third, Fourth...)

    So Tae-geuk Il Jang just means "The First of the Tae-geuk series"

    (editted: Sorry I didn't realize nearly everything was already covered! The cardinal numbers are of Korean origin and the ordinals are Chinese origin)
     

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