[Japan] Learning Japanese

Discussion in 'Off Topic Area' started by Victoria, Jan 8, 2007.

  1. Victoria

    Victoria Pretzel In Training

    Thank you!

    I think I've got it now. Apart from the occasional "LL" Welsh sound that's coming out. Damn the Welsh in me :D

    Definitely sounds like a smash between 'L' and 'D' on the audio though - that's where I got baffled :Alien:
     
  2. succubus

    succubus so hot right now

    yeh, a word like "arigatou" can sound like arigatou, aligatou or adigatou.

    to my ears it actually sounds most similar to the last one. :p

    you don't have to worry about getting it perfect though. the only time you would need it to be really good was if you were having conversations with japanese speakers. and if you're doing that, you'll hear the correct pronunciation and start assimilating soon enough anyway. ;)
     
  3. Victoria

    Victoria Pretzel In Training

    In that case, for now, it'll be "arigatou" :D

    (what does arigatou mean btw? It sounds like a spell out of harry potter :D )
     
  4. onyomi

    onyomi 差不多先生

    It's funny, I totally remember the "r" sounding like a "d" when I first started studying Japanese. I was like, "the word for apple is 'dingo'"? The trick is that it is between an "l" and an "r" both in sound and in terms of tongue position. In English, the "r" has the tongue touching the roof of the mouth and the "l" has the tip of the tongue touching the line where the teeth and gums meet. The Japanese "r" is somewhere in between, with the tongue touching that little ridge between the front part of the mouth and the roof.

    Arigatou means "thank you." It's short for arigatou gozaimasu, which literally means "it is thankful."
     
  5. Victoria

    Victoria Pretzel In Training

    Quick thing on origatou. Is the 'u' pronounced or dropped? :cool:
     
  6. succubus

    succubus so hot right now

    you elongate the 'o' sound.
     
  7. Victoria

    Victoria Pretzel In Training

    Learnt a few words yesterday. I don't know what's so funny about squid but I'm still giggling every time I see "ika" :rolleyes:

    Just to check I've got the right idea, can one of you advanced learners confirm a couple words please :D

    Dog - "i-nu"
    One - "i-chi"
    This morning - "ke-sa"
    Pond - "i-ke"

    I picked the roman out of hiragana but not sure if that's the right way to go about it?
     
  8. Kogusoku

    Kogusoku 髭また伸びた! Supporter

    It's not "Origatou", it's "Arigatou" - あ・り・が・と・う

    "A" - あ and "O" - お can be easily confused.
     
  9. Victoria

    Victoria Pretzel In Training

    :eek:
     
  10. Kogusoku

    Kogusoku 髭また伸びた! Supporter

  11. Mr Punch

    Mr Punch Homicidal puppet

    Didn't read over the whole thread to see if anyone had mentioned this, but I've just found that Firefox has an excellent function called Rikaichan that enables you to just hover your mouse over a word on a page of Japanese text and it pops up the hiragana yomikata (reading) and the English translation.

    Don't know if Explorer has a similar option anywhere.
     
  12. Mr Punch

    Mr Punch Homicidal puppet

    Just found out there's an updated version called PeraPeraKun available too. Haven't checked it out yet though.

    Of course, these are of limited use to you for now, but they will help eventually.

    Also the excellent online dictionary dictionary.
     
  13. Victoria

    Victoria Pretzel In Training

    Thanks Mr Punch. Any idea how I'd get this function to work on firefox? :D
     
  14. Mr Punch

    Mr Punch Homicidal puppet

    er

    download ff

    go to ff homepage

    search add-ons (or extensions - can't remember which) for rikaichan/peraperakun or just put in the word 'japanese' and bob ha anata no ojisan ni narimasu!
     
  15. Hiroji

    Hiroji laugh often, love much

    Sorry if someone has already said this, but Japanese for Dummies is a good book ;)
     
  16. Victoria

    Victoria Pretzel In Training

    Sorry but...what's ff? :D :eek:
     
  17. Mr Punch

    Mr Punch Homicidal puppet

    firefox. :bang:

    The subject you asked me about! Help us out a bit here: use yer loaf FFS! :p :D And no, I'm not telling you what FFS stands for!
     
  18. saru1968

    saru1968 New Member

    better than FFS....
     
  19. Victoria

    Victoria Pretzel In Training

    Thank you for clearing that up :rolleyes:
     
  20. yoruichi

    yoruichi New Member

    Probably the best books on learning Japanese are the Genki series - not the cheapest of books but are recognised by the JLPT and I used them at Uni and you can get a handy workbook to go with them. They also start you off on Kanji from lesson 4 onwards - gently mind, you're not thrown in at the deep end or anything :)
     

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