Discussion in 'MMA' started by Pretty In Pink, Apr 17, 2018.
It attracts people who like to punch things I guess.
Depends as well though, you're comparing the NFL to all of MMA it's not a fair comparison. A more fair representation would be the entirety of the NFL vs UFC fighters exclusively. If you encompass all of MMA, I know dirt bags who have 1 amateur fight and beat a woman previously. The reticle says "to count for top ranked fighters that escalates to 750...." doesn't make much sense and hopefully deadpool can elaborate on that for me. However, there are only like 500 UFC fighters and those guys are the top ranked guys out there with a few exceptions like Askren and Rory MacDonald. So this article sounds incredibly biased. I'll go into it more when I'm home.
I know people would probably be offended by this...but...
In the end, it's a fighting sport and we gotta admit, some of the best fighters aren't very nice people. I know we romanticise "the martial artist" as super humble, respectful and think of fighters should be like GSP or Anderson Silva, but instead there needs to be an acknowledgement that folk like Lee Murray in the fight game exists. Because...well....violence.
you may have already heard about this incident but if not www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPcdyS2oDBo
Good that she knocked him out.
Isnt that also the guy that went viral acting tough at weigh ins. Then destroyed by his opponent (Ben Nguyen)?
Edit. It is!!
Sweet sweet justice.
Yes, I love how Nguyen handled that weigh in
She gives a really important message: no matter how strong or confident someone seems, they can still fall prey to being in an abusive relationship.
So in that video it says he is now dating some other woman in MMA. I must assume she heard about this incident... I don't understand the psychology here... why would you date someone with a clear history of domestic violence? I guess she thinks it won't happen to her too for some reason?
I do understand the psychology of why abused people stay with their abuser, but not why a yet-to-be-abused person would agree to start a relationship with an abusive person.
Because while there are a lot of factors to do with male attractiveness which are pretty well documented and understandable objectively, subjectively reason doesn't enter into it. To quote an old dating guru "If they're not attracted to you there's nothing you can do. If you can make them attracted to you there's nothing they can do."
Because abusers tend to be adept at manipulating people. I'm sure he's convinced her that it was "their fault" and she's special so he wouldn't do that to her. Then the psychological control ratchets up, and then the physical abuse starts.
As Ben says, it takes attraction at first to want to believe those kind of lies. Abusers prey on both people's deepest insecurities and their hopes and dreams.
I'll be honest and say I don't get it either. 7 billion people in the world. Find one that's not a known domestic abuser. There are literally millions of them.
If only life were that simple.
Even outside of abusive relationships, think about how many people you've known who've stuck around in relationships that made them miserable.
I guess you could give an evolutionary argument for it; choice of mate was incredibly limited for the vast majority of our time on the planet.
Again, honestly I think life can be that simple.
I'd not consider a relationship, or break one off, with someone if I found out they don't politely hold doors open for people. There are just certain things that are beyond the pale.
I'd never date someone that smoked. Loads of things. Being a known domestic abuser is right up there as a turn off.
I also don't get why he's accepted in gyms. Why are Alpha fail training with him unless they tacitly condone what he's done?
I'm with you on that, and I don't understand it either, but it is incredibly common so something other than stupidity is going on here.
I don't believe your line of thinking is realistic or practical, and it comes too close to blaming the victim for me.
It does. I guess I see a world of difference between being with a partner who slowly changes over time (or hides their true self) to become abusive and how hard that can be to deal with, and escape from, compared to newly shacking up with someone that already has a known history of being an abuser.
Isn't the flip side of this saying that women (in this case) have no agency or power to determine who they get into relationships with? When people get rid of partners all the time when they find out they aren't suitable.
It's a grey area for sure but quire frankly if that Julian idiot whacks his new girlfriend at some point it won't be surprising.
I would be asking what insecurities and problems does she have to want to do that. I can't imagine someone happy in themselves doing it. Just like saying "I don't get why anyone would cut or burn themselves to feel better, why don't they just not do it?" or "Why would anyone hang themselves? It's so easy not to!".
It may well show a lack of agency, but it is in no way exclusive to women. Many men enter into psychologically or physically abusive relationships.
Unfortunately it is probably inevitable.
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