Is Mackenzie Dern serious?

She was recently asked to leave MMA Lab. When your coaches don't want to train you anymore that means something is wrong. When she missed weight by 7 pounds last night I knew the problem then. Shes not training. They asked her to leave because shes not committed. No discipline. I predict a brutal loss in her near future. Maybe that will wake her up. Maybe she needs that.

 

It's easy for us to pass judgment and accuse her of being unmotivated and undisciplined. We only heard one side of the story. Until we hear hers, we will never really know what's going in her life. Saying she needs a brutal loss is shallow.

 

I take it, you were filled in later by both parties, right?

Because, it really is the limit to judge people, knowing one side only.
Or not even that side, but judging them, by what you think what is the case.

And you're not only judging her, but also wishing her bad, without knowing anything.
Charming.


I really, really dislike people, that would do something like that.

 

Dern was completely unprofessional not making the weight, it was an absolute disgrace and a spit in the face of her opponent. I don't care. If something in her family/personal life stopped her from making weight then it would be serious enough for her not to fight at all.

Trash through and through. I too, hope she gets smashed next fight (at least, if she shows up heavy again).

And she had the absolute cheek to post a picture of her with a new set of scales claiming they were fantastic. The irony blows me away.

 

I don't care for one fighter or the other, as I am not into the materia, so I won't comment on that.

But I would never state to *know" what has happened, when I haven't heard the others version of it anyway.
In that case I would make it clear, that it is my *opinion* or that I *assume* that this is the case, and not that I *know* it is.
Especially since I got thrown into a situation, where that made a *BIG* difference and had a *big* impact; since then I am totally allergic to crap like that - no matter the person, btw.

For me it is also a difference, if I hope the other might lose his next fight or gets a "brutal loss".



EDIT:

Why?

Again, I mention, I don't care for either side, and I want to make clear, that I don't know what was the reason or anything.

But why shouldn't she fight, if that were the case.

I was in some of my bigger holes the last few months and I still went and trained the kids and no one would notice - I was even told, that I seem to do better (which is wrong).

Now, I do realize, giving training and fighting is something different!
I won't deny that at all!

But as long as she thinks she can pull it off (or any person, as I don't really care for her or anything), she should be able to do it (and if the weight and all is a fit, sure).

 

She CONSISTENTLY fails to make weight...she is either lazy or has a crap team...or else is afraid to step up a weight class

As a PROFESSIONAL literally all she has to do is train...zero excuses for being that poor

 

UFC Wants Mackenzie Dern At Flyweight After ‘Shameful’ UFC 224 Incident

So end result is the UFC is gonna make her make weight. Or she is going to have to move up a weight catagory.

Simple.

 

I'm not defending her not making weight or anything.
I'm not defending her at all, actually.

I just mentioned, and I'm still behind that, that it's poor to pretend "to know" why she did or didn't do something, without talking or at least knowing about both sides.

For all I know (see what I did there? ), she could be eating burgers every day and being lazy as hell.
Or she had a bad menu and her menstruation started.

Fact is, I don't *know* what has happened.


If you people here would have written: "I think she screwed up, because she is lazy and doesn't care and with that spit her opponent in the face" - I wouldn't have said anything to it.
At all.

Because that would be a clear opinion, based on what you have heard.

I hate this "knowing"-part.
You guys don't know.
Maybe her stupid scale was broken and she didn't know better (and, yes, I read it happenend more often so it's not a believable point) - no one here can *know*, because no one here was there.

Again: If people say it happened before and she seems lazy and doesn't deserve to be a pro - no problem then.
Not at all, as long as it is marked as an opinion.

For me that is a *major* difference: "Knowing what happened and why" compared to "assuming or guessing what had happened or why".
Maybe it's, because I am burnt child here, but to me that is important difference.


As a more day to day comparison: When John Doe says his former girlfriend had done some sexual stuff him and he starts bragging about, suddenly everyone "knows" what a whore she is.
And hardly anyone actually asks Jane what she actually did do.
Did she pleasure him, did him invent it to look cool, ...?
(And no, it didn't happen to me, it is just an example that fits the idea behind "I know" without being able to actually *know*.)

 

I KNOW she consistently fails to make weight
I KNOW she hates cutting weight
I KNOW she likes relaxing rather than training
I KNOW she should be fighting higher weight if she cannot cut
I KNOW her lack of interest in weight loss is annoying to the UFC, the press and other fighters
I KNOW that she went straight to the snack table after FAILING to make weight

So all said and done we know a lot more than you think we do and it is MASSIVELY unprofessional

 

In her own words.....


Ps aside from that, she steam rollered the other fighter.

Perhaps her new nickname of cookie monster is pretty apt!

 

I lol'd!

 

See the quote above.
And that was the only part I answered to; as I thought my first post in this thread made clear.

That didn't come to me as if it were an opinion. Simple as that.
If it was meant like that, please. But it wasn't was it sounded like to me.

People can have all the opinions they want, whether I agree with them or not.
But when I do disagree I won't pretend otherwise.
And yes: People, claiming to know things about and therefore judging other people, without having talked to them or listened to their side are not the people, I like t talk to much.

Ass for the bolded (by me) part: In case that weren't a typo, I don't understand the sentence.
Nope, not trying to be snotty, just trying to see, if I understood it right or need a further explanation.

As I tried to explain several times: I don't care for the event in which it happend, I only reacted to the part, where Angelika suddenly "knew" what had happened without having information (when I understood correctly, all the statements came a while after the weigh-in and not in the same moment (in which Angelica said she "knew it").

Again: This is the only thing I am talking about.
Not the event itself.
For all I know and care the fighter might just not care of have tuna growing in her tummy.
That wasn't my reasoning to answer.


EDIT: I just reread the beginning of the thread.
Interesting the VanZandt essentially said the same, and it was okay there.

 

And that was the only thing I referred to; that's why I only picked that part in my original answer.

Things like that make me jumpy; maybe because I'm a burnt child there, as mentioned above, but I react allergic to it.

Don't get me wrong, but better your phrasing was off and my understanding okay anyway, than the other way around

Get well!

 

In English it would still come off as an opinion I think. Because of course the person doesn't know and it's obvious that it's still a guess. She could have said "when she missed weight that's when I guessed why she must have been kicked out of MMA LAB" but it just sounds awkward.