We've seen a number of times on this forum, and others, points being raised regarding false information being given within various organisations in order to hide the true teachings from those who aren't actually training within the relevant organisation. Before this looks like an attack on the Kans, please let me make it very clear that it is not, I am a Genbukan member, and fully support keeping certain teachings hidden from those who haven't put in the time and effort to deserve them, but want to question this practice as I don't agree with it. What I have an issue with, is the way false information is published, or released, AND CHARGED FOR, on the basis that it is the true teachings. I have seen examples of this from Hatsumi and Tanemura sensei both, I believe we will also find the same within Jinenkan, and other organisations also. When these things are discussed it's almost taken as a given fact that there will be some incorrect information or demostrations, and accepted. My question to everyone on here is - Is this right? Is it an acceptable thing to do? I'm not talking about keeping certain things hidden, if you want to keep things secret that's fine, but about taking money from someone on the basis that you are sharing correct info with them. This to me is false advertising, and also taking money on false pretences. If I order a new black gi, and receive a red one, I'm going to be annoyed! If the company I ordered it from says 'Well sir, I'm afraid we reserve our black gi's for our repeat customers.' I'm going to say 'I paid for a black gi, if you're not going to supply one you a; shouldn't advertise it as black, and b; shouldn't take money for it on the basis that it is black. I would demand the correct item, or a refund. Does anyone else feel this way, or disagree, I'd like to hear other thoughts on the subject.