Idris Elba - the next Bond?

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by Van Zandt, Dec 29, 2014.

  1. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-30594460

    Elba was my pick for the next Bond as far back as when Casino Royale was released in 2006.

    Daniel Craig is the best actor to play Bond to date, in my opinion. His arrival (finally, thankfully) hailed the departure of a rather camp character who relied far too much on gadgets. Elba is the only British actor that comes to mind as Craig's potential replacement (Luke Evans and Clive Owen would be on my shortlist too).

    The only problem with Elba replacing an aging Craig (let's face it, the role requires a certain youthfulness) is that he is four years younger than the current Bond; Craig has been announced to return for Bond 25 (the one after Spectre, which is filming as we speak).

    But I think Elba's skin colour should have no bearing on his selection. Rush Lambaugh's remarks are disgusting. The only constant that should remain, in my opinion, when selecting actors is that they are actually British.

    Thoughts? Specifically, who would be your pick after Craig?
     
  2. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Elba would be a great choice. Although I would love to see either Marc Strong or Tom Hiddleston take it on. Tom Hardy would fit too

    I am a bit out of the loop on more "domestic" UK actors
     
  3. FunnyBadger

    FunnyBadger I love food :)

    Idris Elba is a great choice, great actor and plenty of potential to pull it off. Let's face it following Daniel Craig is going to be a hard act to follow but Elba has more chance than most.

    Tom hardy is another interesting choice but I just can't see him as anything other than bane now . . . Bane, james bane just doesn't have be same ring to it :(
     
  4. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Clive Owen is one I would of liked to see and he's been in the loop on it for years now, but I think he's said that he's too old to do it. Agree Tom Hardy is likely to be on the shortlist and I think there's a chance he could do it. He managed to pull off being a loveable rogue in Inception anyway.

    I'll be honest, I've never seen anything with Elba in it I can think of so I can't comment on whether he should be a Bond. As far as skin colour, I'm with the fan theory that James Bond is a code name and not a person. No reason he shouldn't get to do it. The only thing I remember saying when there were rumours about a black Bond is that I wanted someone who deserved the role, not to give it to a black guy just because its progressive. I gather Elba is a very good choice though, so that's my only concern sorted.
     
  5. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Colin Salmon!
     
  6. Bozza Bostik

    Bozza Bostik Antichrist on Button Moon

    Julian Clary. Bond has always been camp, well after Connery...might as well go the whole hog.

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  7. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    I don't think he's a great choice. I like him as an actor, especially in The Wire, although I enjoyed Luther too, but I'm not seeing what makes people think he'd make a good Bond.

    Anyone got any youtube clips or anything of his acting where he has any "Bond-ness" about him, as I really don't see it.
     
  8. Bozza Bostik

    Bozza Bostik Antichrist on Button Moon

    Kinda agree....and to be honest, he's charismatic and all...but I don't think he's that good an actor. I've only seen him in Luther though, so maybe I am being harsh to judge him on one series.
     
  9. LemonSloth

    LemonSloth Laugh and grow fat!

    Haha! I was basically going to say the exact same thing. The BBC article hit the nail on the head for me when it mentioned about the relevance of Bonds' back story. I get where Rush is coming from but frankly I think he's being way too precious.

    As for a next Bond...I honestly don't know. I kind of want to stick with the darker, grittier theme of the latest Bond films and go with someone closer to Jason Statham, except I don't think he'd be quite right. I honestly don't know who else I would pick though.
     
  10. LemonSloth

    LemonSloth Laugh and grow fat!

    What about Dominic West? A little on the old side, but that would still fit with the last film's comments about an "old dog":

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  11. Bozza Bostik

    Bozza Bostik Antichrist on Button Moon

    I was really disappointed with the last Bond films. I don't like Bond after Connery and the odd Moore one and everyone said the new ones where similar to the originals, but I didn't get that vibe really. They just threw away the gadget stuff and it was suddenly "gritty". hmmmm.....

    Harry Palmer > James Bond.
     
  12. LemonSloth

    LemonSloth Laugh and grow fat!

    For me, Roger Moore was a bit of a let down actually. Liked the movies but didn't like him. Loved Connery, actually quite liked Dolton, didn't enjoy Brosnan after the first two films (and to be honest, I think Sean Bean might've been the reason I loved Goldeneye), and Lazenby was...well, Lazenby. Craig I do like though.

    I wouldn't say the newer ones are that close to the originals either. But the Craig ones are definitely grittier IMO. Not 'cos of the lack of gadgets either but more 'cos of bits like when he dumps Dominic Greene in the desert with an oil can, the scene from Casino Royale with Le Chiffre where he's tied to a chair, the poisoning scene, Skyfall and Bond being utterly washed up, etc.

    At least more so than harpooning a guy to a tree with the quip "I think he got the point" :p.
     
  13. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Valued Member MAP 2017 Gold Award

    The first bond film had almost no gadgets, neither did Casino Royale.

    I'd like to see a few people play Bond. Elba and Hardy are up there.
     
  14. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Rockarolla - very cheeky
     
  15. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    OK, watched a bit of youtube and he pulls off some good lines, but it's still closer to cockney geezah - albeit with some refinement - than product of the public school system.

    I think Bond should be that kind of "officer class" type who went from boarding school into the civil service, with some Naval duties for good measure. I know Craig plays the character a bit rougher, but he's still more Sandhurst than rank-and-file.
     
  16. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    He was Heimdall too so we know he can do stoic :)
     
  17. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    lol @ Harry Palmer - recently watched a few. Some were great... some were... err.. not so great. :D

    Not sure why anyone gives time to anything that bigoted slob Limbaugh has to say. Comedy gold. He's a complete buffoon in the best of times.

    Bond's a fictional character so he could ostensibly be played by anyone. It's not a historical novel based on facts. It's fiction written by Ian Fleming. He doesn't even have to be British. I'm curious for those of you pulling the nationalism card how you figure he's got to be British? Can't see the logic in it. If the actor manages to cause you - the audience member - to suspend disbelief then surely it's job done regardless of what is nationality is right?
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2014
  18. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Plus Connery was Scottish, Dalton Welsh, Brosnan Irish and Lazenby Australian
     
  19. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    Mark Strong is a brilliant candidate. How the hell did I forget him?

    Tom Hiddleston is a bit too camp, in my opinion. I've only seen him play Loki so I probably need to watch his other stuff to get a better idea of his acting range. But even as Thor's little brother he was fantastic.

    Tom Hardy could definitely do it but I think he's at least 10 years too young at the minute.

    Hardy is great in This Means War and comes off as a very believable secret agent. There's a scene in a restaurant where he bitch slaps Chris Pine that makes you think he's genuinely a hard nut in real life.

    I'd seen Elba in One Love and The Gospel before I saw Casino Royale and thought he'd be great as the next Bond because he's a superb actor, rather than choosing him to be the token black Bond. It is a shame so many people will inevitably talk about his skin colour when it has jack to do with the character.

    His performance in The Long Walk to Freedom will blow your mind. He should have won the best actor Oscar.

    See above.

    Jason Statham is probably the best choice for the role in terms of action scenes. I can't help but watch Craig and think "actor who trained for the action" whereas Statham looks like he came out of his mother's womb with a gun in one hand, a knuckle duster on the other, and a knife between his teeth.

    Another great choice. He was excellent as Fred West in Appropriate Adult and really could pull off Bond.

    The Craig films are closer to what the life of a spy might look like (still way over the top compared to reality of course). I liked the part in Skyfall where Q was arrogant to say he could beat Silva's computer system because he built it, but Silva still won. Played quite nicely with the new Q's young face.

    The only American I could see playing Bond is Jeremy Renner. Of course, he would have to apply for British citizenship and take elocution lessons first. :D

    Two of those are British, one British but whose country pretends it isn't, and one British but his country is so drunk it can't remember.
     
  20. boards

    boards Its all in the reflexes!

    I think Elba is too old now. He'd be, maybe 45 by the time the next starts so not much longevity there.
    I'm not sure who I'd pick but I could see Luke Evans or maybe the guy who plays superman.
    As for Craig I liked Casino Royal, it was a fantastic update to Bonds story but I thought quantum of solace had nothing to do with Bond, and Skyfall was only ok.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2014

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