Gunfighting martial art or martial not

I would just like to point out that Hannibal is a CANADIAN police officer and thus most of his firearms work consists of protecting maple trees from bears.

 

And then apologizing

 

Although as I am English and from Manchester I will also swear profusely as I do so

 

If you’re originally from Manchester, why are you even using a gun against the bear? Wouldn’t you, y’know, just headbutt it then glass it?

 

then shoot it and nick its trainers

 

Fair do's, i am arguing with multiple people which shifts some things sometimes. (consciously or unconsciously)

I need to drill into my head to make clear premsies of arguments that support a conclusion.

Racist, he protects them from Moose. Bears is Alaskan state troopers not the RCMP.

 

I am not RCMP

 

Let’s try to keep this realistic. We’re talking about BEARS here. They live in the woods and thus wear hiking boots, not trainers.

 

Maybe your snooty european Bears do....

 

So you acknowledge that drilling is important with words...but you won’t acknowledge the importance of structured drilling with firearms?

At this point I’m questioning if you’re just intentionally trolling. I have never in my life met someone who was so dismissive of the value of training with firearms before using them for defensive purposes. Sure, I’ve met people who are like “yeah, X amount of training would be valuable, but I just can’t be bothered,” but I’ve never before met someone who said “you know everything you need to know within your first four dozen shots at a range, and any other training is a waste.”

 

No no no, I’m American. Our bears don’t have boots, they have machine guns. Bear arms are right there spelled out in the Second Amendment.

 

I acknowledge doing training has its place, im just arguing about doing it under an instructor. Or should be arguing that anyway

Edit: That was a terrible joke that i only just got now, "bear arms". Shame on you.

 

How the heck do you know what to train, and whether you’re training effective or ineffective habits and mechanics, if you’re NOT doing it under an instructor? We’re not talking about watercolor or poetry where “good” is subjective. We’re talking about applying lethal force with a complex mechanical device.

 

Sadly no he won't

 

Redact that, i stupidly forgot there are quite a few shooting stances you can learn. I presume each one of those has a slight variation in drawing a firearm if they look at drawing a firearm from a holster that is.

You have to go out with a bang.

Yes i get the point. More uses with a teacher with the pre requisite they are good enough to teach.

Not everyone finds them equally useful and it doesnt mean you cant some understanding of a concept before they teach it to you.

 

If you actually attended a class, you’d realize how basic this question is. Drawing a firearm, especially from concealment, is a complex and potentially dangerous process. Saying “there are multiple shooting stances and I presume each one has a slight variatino in drawing a firearm” shows an inability to even identify practical problems and safety problems, not to mention an inability to successfully deploy a firearm in an emergency.

Holy moving goalposts, Batman! In post 85 you disputed that formal training was “beneficial” to using a firearm in a real-life self-defense situation. Now you’re just saying you can gain “some understanding of a concept” before first attending class. Those are two totally different issues.

I have some understanding of the concept of open-heart surgery. I have no business actually conducting open-heart surgery in real life. Those are two different issues.

But based on your other comments about drawing a firearm, you haven’t even hit “some understanding of a concept” yet.