Depression Coming Back

Discussion in 'Off Topic Area' started by Pretty In Pink, Apr 23, 2016.

  1. Alansmurf

    Alansmurf Aspire to Inspire before you Expire Supporter


    You rock at being Thomas....always remember that ...

    Having had the pleasure of sharing mats , hackey sack and frisbee flinging ....I still say you Rock

    Just so you all know ...He beat me at all of these ..

  2. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    No experience with depression myself, but... the advise given seems to be a good one! Talk to a professional, you can also always talk to us here on the forum.

    I have never met you, but to me you seem like a very cool person. Look at your fight record! That is pretty good and you must have trained very hard to accomplish that. You seem to be a friendly young guy and you have a really nice blog I enjoyed reading (what a pity there haven't been updates for a while now) ;). There are mayn thigs you could take pride in. I know there are probably many things to feel bad about, too, but there are for everyone.
    However, if you struggle with depression, it is probably hard to get out of it just based on advises like this. Please, do seek help.
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  3. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    I've had the pleasure of meeting you, watching you learn, train and even fight (on video).

    I've watched how you interact with people here.

    You're awesome dude. Everyone is just winging it, just doing their best, and most of our best is not as good as yours.

    Always here if you want to chat, message me any time :)
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  4. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    Hey man. Everyone else already gave a lot of good advice, and I can't really contribute much more, however, I can say that I for one am here if you wanna talk, and you know where to find me on FB as well. I know first hand how much help it is to have people to talk to online and how much easier it can be than even talking with your closest friends and family. MAP, along with a couple other things, quite literally kept me alive because of that when I was a teenager, because although my issues were not too severe from the physiological/neurological side of things (they were more anxiety-based and I never ended up having to take any medication), they were massively compounded by the environment in which I lived, and in turn feedback-looped into by my own lack of world and life experience (I normally express the sentiment that I didn't really start "living" as an effective person until I was 21). My 'peers' were a living hell for me, and I didn't really have anything resembling self-worth and happiness with myself until many years later, first after returning to Argentina and finishing high-school among people who actually treated me like an equal (after having spent half my life treated like trash or a second-hand person in almost all respects simply because of my nationality and because of not sharing the same interests as my schoolmates), and later after several years of weight training and the accompanying shifts in body image and demeanor from seeing my body change and learning to push through pain, discomfort, and literal physical resistance. Whatever you do, don't shut yourself off from people, keep talking, and if someone doesn't listen, find someone who will. Online, in forums or Facebook, you can spill everything out at once without interruption, or at whatever pace you will, and you have access to a limitless supply of people from which to find whoever will listen. Kindred spirits and empathic listeners are out there, and location is not an impediment. Keep looking, keep talking, and don't give up. Stay strong, dude. Sending a big hug your way.
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  5. tedjenson90

    tedjenson90 New Member

    that's really so brave of you to admit it . first of all just try to love urself. suicide is not a solution to any problem. life is beautiful honey you just need to love and believe in yourself . there are ups and downs, good times and worst times too. if nothing is good now that means everything will be fine tomorrow . believe that you are strong enough to fight.
    good luck & god bless you!!
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  6. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    No experience with depression myself, but here is a short story that may be helpful.

    An old Chinese lady liked to collect gold rings. Every night before she went to bed, she always counted her 20 golden rings. One night she found 1 of her 20 gold rings was missing. She could only count 19. She hung herself that night.

    What does this story tell us?

    Sometime we only think about thing that we don't have, and we don't think about things that we still have.

    If your

    - eyes can see,
    - legs can walk,
    - body don't have pain,

    you should be very happy about what you still have.
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2019
  7. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    Way to contribute to the stigma's surrounding mental well being issues. :rolleyes: This sort of attitude contributes to people not feeling like they can reach out and get help.

    It is very OBVIOUS you have no personal experience with depression, because this post is very ignorant of what it feels like. Telling someone essentially (as this post does) that you "should" feel better is the opposite of helpful. Often one tries to feel better, be happy, but can't. It is like telling someone to not feel joint pain when they do. The pain of depression is just as real as body pains.

    Depression is far more complicated than you make it out to be. It isn't about wishing you had more gold rings.

    This post is just terrible. And I hope it doesn't discourage people on MAP from reaching out. Because most of us on here know better than the ignorance this post shows.

    Youknowwho, you should read these articles - maybe google more like it - and educate yourself on the topic before issuing such dangerous and harmful advice again.

    Stop Telling People To "Snap Out Of It" — Depression Is Not A Choice

    4 Things You Should Never Say to Someone With Depression
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2019
  8. Tman

    Tman Valued Member

    Back in the 90's I decided to get less stoned, stressed and start getting healthy.

    Tae Kwon Do helped considerably. It gave me a tool I hadn't had. I trained in it as much as possible.

    Then at age 20, I received an ankle injury in a tournament. I failed to get the correct advice in healing the muscular imbalance that had caused the injury in the first place. A few years later, I had to stop all training due to chronic back pain.

    Intense depression followed. An active young person doesn't take inactivity too well.

    All the GP could offer was meds for the back pain and depression.

    To cut the story short, an osteopath advised me to start Tai Chi and a friend's interest in yoga prompted me to try it.

    Im now an instructor in Iyengar yoga, and practice that as well as chi gung most days. Im back to the high kicks after many years, before that I selected styles/classes that enabled me to work with the back pain.

    Chronic back pain and depression are one and the same. Looking at the source isn't just a physical address of the body, but the emotional source also. It could be said that physical tension is a manifestation of emotional tensions and blockages.

    The practices I do give immense relief and have been a light in a dark place.

    Well worth trying.
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  9. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Valued Member MAP 2017 Gold Award

    That's beautiful man. Glad you pulled through.
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  10. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Thats awesome @Tman.
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  11. Ericlobster

    Ericlobster New Member

    My friend, thanks for sharing this. One thing I would say is to try giving meditation a try. It's really helped me. I'm on day 36. If you can avoid the meds, and do some meditation, it might be something that can set you on a better path. 1LUV.

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