Antifa Forming "Self Defence" Group

At least these violent terrorists are stupid,hopefully they'll be in prison very soon.

 

How many people have Anti-fascist killed?
And maybe compare that to how many people the "alt right" have killed?

 

To avoid said argument, biased media reports on both and usually reports on both sides poorly. (obviosuly a bias towards their parties)

Just as a open question, doesnt Antifa walk around carrying a Anarcho Communist flag anyway?

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Partisan poltics, everyone who is not a patrtisan to them, is grouped up as a parrtisan for the enemy. For Antifa that would be calling everyone who opposes it a Nazi/Fascist. For the Nazis, i dont know what they use, they would use soemthing. (there is more than Nazis and Antifa BTW)

Further edit, for the love of god look out for "based stickman"

 

However the people at Trump rallies weren't arrested (indeed were frequently encouraged by Trump himself) and no-one's calling them terrorists or complaining about their suppression of free speech and the right to protest, thus highlighting the hypocritical double standard being applied and the manipulation of public consciousness that is occurring.
The extremist highly violent groups often being broadly referred to as Antifa are typically straight black flag anarchists, the same people who smash up banks during G8 summits. Antifa is an inherently anarcho-socialist concept anyway (strong communities don't require police according to red and black dogma).

 

Do you mean actual Nazis or the people Antifa call nazis?

If you're including right wing patriots,nationalists and even white nationalists under the banner 'nazi' (meaning a member of the German national socialist workers party,that hasn't existed since 1945 and never existed outside of Europe) then it's fair to call communists anti-fascists.
In which case the antifascists have killed far,far more.

 

Interesting statistics.....

Plus you know we fought a world war to stop the Nazi ideology before, although I'm sure a change of uniform to khakis and polo shirts makes it fine.

"found 92% of all "ideologically motivated homicide incidents" committed in the United States from 2007 to 2016 were done "with a right-wing extremist or white supremacist motive"

FACT CHECK: Is The Far-Right Largely Responsible For Extremist Violence?

 

Yeah, those people with 88 tattooed on their neck who identify as national socialists are in no way Nazis Dead_pool you fool.

 

Why Would you not call them Nazi?

They follow a similar ideology, and many many members claim Hitler as an inspiration and identify as Nazi, hence all the swastika tattoos and flags.

 

I've seen the opposite to be the case as well,the media is becoming more bi-partisan as time goes on.
Antifa have got away with initiating violence against anyone it opposes for a very long time,it makes no illusions as to it's intentions to carry out what are by definition, acts of terrorism.

If this can be brought to a stop,for all his blunders,Trump will have done one thing right,not just for America,but for the entire world.

 

charlottesville nazi flags - Google Search

Must be an accidental flag mix up!

 

Now there's a statement that needs support if ever I saw one

 

The Nazi side have literally killed people, turned up carry firearms, and bragged to the media about causing violence, and now your claiming anti facists are the problem!?

 

In their own words.

 

Because they're not,they're LARPers at best.
More often not even that.

Antifa follow a near identical ideology to communist mass murderers,but they can't (and shouldn't) be held accountable for their crimes.
And there is a hell of a lot more similarity between an Anarcho-communist and a Stalinist,ideologically than there is between a libertarian,an-cap or even white nationalist and a national socialist.

 

Now that's just straight wrong

 

Need specfic examples, there has been at least one case where police didnt get involved in a riot between protesters there for neither side was correctly stopped etc. Can you cite trump supporting riots/the supression fo free speech as well? I am going to go out and presume that there are probbly cases where the police didnt arrest antifa supporters as well. Trump supporterts are not a unified group, they are all unitied by the fact they voted for/support Trump (for what ever reason, not my buisness), they are not largly unified past that support. Antifa is unified in what ever they belive in and is a actual orginizaed group.

That lastpoint is why plenty of peopel dotn agree with them, that doesnt make thema Nazi if they dotn agree with Communist, socialsim or Anarchy. Plenty of people dont, i dont agree with Anarchy or Marxism. That would probbly get me grouped up with "trump supporters" in their minds.

I hold onto the stance riots should be stopped invalid of either side. Most people do as well. (apart from rioters obviosuly )


Also to be clear, what Antifa calls a Nazi/Fascist is not always a nazi/fascist. They refer to average trump supporters as that also. Its easy enough to paint everyone who doesnt support you as a baddy.


Also would anyone be intrested in a thread on this? Jsut so it doesnt overflow into other ones.

 

If they have the right to carry fire arms they definitely should,a violent mob of Anarcho-communists is going to attack them for exercising their right to free speech!
I would,wouldn't you?

In that little video I saw no evidence of him initiating any violence,the optics alone will demonise his cause,antifa attacking him justifies it.

 

And yet the majority of terrorism in the US is from the right wing. The right wing have killed people during these protests, and have attempted to kill more.

Communism at least, helped us beat the Nazi regime, so thats one over the Nazi's in my book any day.

 

What do the other 3 ideologies have in common with national socialism in your opinion?