Here is the "big fist" strategy: - Hold both of your hands into a big fist. - Hide your head behind it. - Extend your arms toward at your opponent's face. - Move in toward your opponent and try to use your big fist to hit on his face. - When your opponent tries to hit your head, you use your big fist along with wedged arms to deflect your opponent's head shots. - When your hands are close to your opponent's head, use head lock, and take him down ASAP. Just made some video in my today's class. All comments are welcome. 1. Use "big fist" to hit on your opponent's head. The training is done for chest punch instead. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuWaAyi2KCs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuWaAyi2KCs[/ame] 2. Use "big fist" to deflect incoming punches. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTAd32BavQY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTAd32BavQY[/ame] 3. Use "big fist" to create a "clinch". [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78tfRtp_WJ8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78tfRtp_WJ8[/ame] 4. Use "big fist" to create a "clinch", use "clinch" to create "throw". [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rPcIIRoBWo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rPcIIRoBWo[/ame]
The "big fist" idea was used in some system already in case you have to fight with handcuffs on. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6sKszpuBjM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6sKszpuBjM[/ame]
I don't think it's ment to be better or worst. I think it's just presented as something different to try that some people may or may not have see before.
this has probably been done a million times by tony blauer and his students, in a better way than this. check out tony blauer's SPEAR for more info. and no, this is not an ad. but propagating something so blatantly exposed and hyped about before in RBSD circles is just rehashing old stuff.
The main purpose of "big fist" strategy is to "turn a striking game into a grappling game ASAP." If you can turn a striking game into a grappling game after your opponent only throws 2 punches, that will be the idea situation. When you use "traditional guard", your hands are closer to your head. You will give your opponent plenty space to generate power and speed in his punch. When you extend your arms, your "big fist" is closer to your opponent's face than to your own face. It's like to send your troops to fight in your opponent's territory than to fight in your own territory. Also since your "big fist" is close to your opponent's hands, you don't give your opponent enough space to generate power and speed for his punch. You can block/deflect your opponent's punch in the initial stage when his punch hasn't generated enough power and speed yet. Since your big fist will only allow your opponent to throw right punch on the left side of your left arm, or to throw left punch on the right side of your arm, it will give you a perfect chance to "wrap his punching arms from inside out".
the arm position in "big fist" is almost identical to what i was shown by lu baochun's bajiquan folks re: applying the classic baji right elbow, as well as the opening move of xiao baji (where you follow this sort of move with a series of elbow strikes). amusingly, the high deflections are basically wing chun's bong sau
Thanks for the videos YouKnowWho! For me things make so much more sense when I can see them in action. I've actually had the guard distance debate with Kenpoists before. When I first started in MMA/Kyokushin i was still training in Kenpo. The theory in Kenpo is similar to what you described i.e. a long guard allows for early interception. However, the issue with how we trained Kenpo was that no one had ever practiced the long guard against someone throwing punches with realistic speed. Naturally, I was more than happy to demonstrate this to them My criticism of a long guard is that the more space between your guard and your head the more space the punchers strikes have to move through. Can you remind me, this drill is against a boxer who is only punching the head? Right? If so, why restrict it to boxing? What about a boxers footwork? Or slapping the "big fist" out of the way before punching? Personally, I have no interest in using a guard that isn't going to protect me from kicks as well. And based on the videos the guy using to "big fist" is wide open to kicks to the body. Criticism aside, I do like how it's working in your drill. Thanks again, Dave
I have always believed that our training should be able to deal with "at least" the following issues: - boxer's punches, - MT guy's round house kick, - TKD guy's side kick, - wrestler's single leg, double legs, - Judo guy's hip throw. - BJJ guy's arm bar, choke. There are separate training drills that deal with both straight line kicks (front kick, side kick) and circular kicks (round house kick, ...). When your opponent applies body shot, his head will be open for your "head lock". So body shot will be a gift to a wrestler. The reason that "big fist" strategy is used here is if some wrestler has good wrestling skill but don't have good striking skill. When he needs to spar against a striker in MMA gym, he will need some strategy in order to cover his "weakness" and be able to apply his strong wrestling skill. Two of my guys are helping wrestling skill in local MMA gyms. Sometime they would spar against the boxing instructor or the MT instructor who also taught in that MMA gym. The "big fist - double upward separate hands" is the enter strategy used for the "head lock". If you want to use "under hook" or "over hook", the "double spears - double downward separate hands, or 1 upward, 1 downward separate hands" entering strategy should be used instead. First you decide what "finish move" that you want to use. You then use the "entering strategy" that can help you to get there.
Ok cool. So you have different guards. Is there a "cover-all" guard, or is the idea to switch between them as is required?
That deck was built in 1984. It has been 30 years. The structure is extreme strong but the deck board will need to be replaced. It had been used heavily before. The following clip was taken in 1987. The deck was in perfect condition back then. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLT6b4GEZE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLT6b4GEZE[/ame]
The guard is only the beginner level training. It helps beginners to remove some "fear" from heavy head punches. The final goal is to reach your - left hand close to your opponent's right arm wrist, and - right hand close to your opponent's left arm wrist, ASAP. You try to grab on your opponent's wrists and prevent him from throwing his punches. It's a very aggressive approach. You try to "prevent" punches from coming toward your face instead of to let punches coming toward your face and then try to deal with it. So your hands position really depends on your opponent's guard. It does not depends on your own guard.
i think the idea is to go in, throw the guy face first into the ground really hard, and leave, not to stand around in a guard posture and wait for the guy to attack.
I understand that. Perhaps one of the problems I'm having with this drill is that I'm approaching it from the mindset of the striker rather than the grappler. I'll be starting my summer sparring sessions again soon so maybe I'll give it try myself. Though I think I'd rather parry the lead punch and maybe move in on that side for a head and arm choke or osoto gari (or similar). Regards, Dave.
well yeah, but if you suck at the initial "not getting hit in the face" part, and your opponent is good at punching you in the face, not a lot of grappling is gonna happen, so this stuff can benefit from being trained separately until it happens by reflex when you actually go for a grappling move
The big fist is like the Chinese weapon 锏(Jian). It's used to break weapon such as knife or sword. There is no way that any knife or sword can hurt 锏(Jian). The main purpose of the "big fist wedged arms" is like the "giant drill machine", no matter what your opponent may do to you, you always use your "drill head" to drill through your opponent's guard. Here is some positive opinions that I have collected from other forum. I have also collected some negative opinions as well. Since when I start a thread, I like to put myself in "listen" mode. I'll accept all negative opinions and I'll not argue with it (unless I'm sure that I can counter prove it, like the risk for interlock fingers). 1. Keeping with this displayed technique it is VERY powerful to strike with. Simply hit the opponent straight in the face with your double fist. It hurts the knuckles only a bit but it is well enough distributed and it really really hurts the opponent when ungloved (Yes, I have been hit with it, it really pushes you back). Also hammering, thumping direct to the face. The great thing is if the opponent is only guarding with one arm you can punch through it with this. 2. If you have to decide 'block left or right' you will never block anything. If you simply make your arms into a shield then you only have to react 'forwards!' rather than attempt a deflection. This method of blocking can actually work very well. 3. You must have a motive to enter, as your opponent cannot deflect for a long time. 4. If someone attacks the body, simply hit directly to their face with the shield itself, they cannot easily block it with just one hand. Especially as this can be powerful from the shortest range.
