Your art's equivalent of slipping?

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Discussion' started by Bon, Sep 12, 2003.

  1. Bon

    Bon Banned Banned

    In boxing, most of you probably know that boxers slip straight punches a lot.. so I was just wondering what your art's equivalent is? How do you karate, kung fu guys, etc. deal with them?
  2. pesilat

    pesilat Active Member

    In FMA, we do the same slip, but our hands are usually checking their arm to monitor/prevent the elbow from clipping us and we're usually attacking simultaneously (i.e.: gunting, other destructions, or striking to the body/head/etc.)

  3. juramentado

    juramentado lean, mean eating machine

    in pekiti-tirsia, there's a lot of slipping in relation to other FMA styles. This is probably due to the fact that the style doesn't do a lot of blocking stick strikes, preferring to use footwork, body movement and control of the range to slip the strike and immediately counterattack.

    I think the concept of slipping strikes can be found in all FMA styles.
  4. Bon

    Bon Banned Banned

    Cool, thanks for the replies!

    Where's everyone else's replies? Are you saying you your art doesn't do anything and you just get hit in the head? ;)
  5. Knight_Errant

    Knight_Errant Banned Banned

    I'd laugh, but some people would ;) I'm currently between styles until 6:00 tonight, and it's judo. We don't do ballistic strikes, or so I'm told.
  6. stump

    stump Supersub

    Many other styles focus on keeping the head in a static position and trying to block anything that comes at it.....

    strange but true

    Isn't the reason the filipino styles developed such evasive movements due to the use of blades in fighting?
  7. KenpoDavid

    KenpoDavid Working Title

    in the style of Kempo I study we use a few different evasive steps : a box step inside the punch, a crossover step outside a punch, a sidestep at a back angle out of range and off-line... probably a few more that I haven't used or don't rememeber right now...
  8. stump

    stump Supersub

    How about head movement David?
  9. Tosh

    Tosh Renegade of Funk

    As far I'm concerned there is nothing in TKD which is as effective as going to a kick/boxing class and being taught how to i did :D.
  10. juramentado

    juramentado lean, mean eating machine

    Yes, I think so. All FMA styles can trace their lineage back to the use of blades and some in fact are still emphasizing on blades instead of sticks. And when dealing with blades, it's best to keep moving and stay out of the way until there's an opportunity to counter.
  11. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    We get into many kinds of "slipping" in Hapkido...
    - Sometimes we just slide outside (or inside) away from from the strike. If we slide back and outside (or inside) we open up kicking attacks. If we slide forward and out (or in) we open up for strikes and/or locks and throws.

    - We use many forms of brush traps... one or two hands brushing inside or out as the situation happens. After we have drill the basiuc basic brushing a while, we try to turn it into a grab. Once we can brush and grab (trap), we then work different locks and takedowns we can use.

    - As for offensive blocks, I don't use a lot but if the situation comes up where I can slide out and strike an extended elbow, I will. I prefer to avoid than contact... slide away from a strike than hard block it. If the strike is coming fast I will deflect and possibly go for a trap.

    - In my opinion, the basic key of "slipping" is not what kind of "block" you use, but how you move your feet and body not only out of the way but into a set up for your next move, whether it is running away, striking, throwing , or locking (controlling).
  12. johndoch

    johndoch upurs

    we tend to use the boxing slip all the time. It tends to be one of the best ways to avoid a punch whilst maintaining good measure of your opponent
  13. KenpoDavid

    KenpoDavid Working Title

    hmmmm.... not specifically, but getting out of the way is the principle, and that includes the head ;)
  14. pesilat

    pesilat Active Member

    Yup. That makes sense to me. You get static when faced with a blade and you die - period. Good mobility is vital against a blade. A longer reaching weapon (i.e.: a 9MM at 50 yards but, failing that, a sword or stick) is nice, too, of course.

  15. aikiMac

    aikiMac aikido + boxing = very good Moderator Supporter

    Aikido: go to the inside, or go to the outside.

    We step "off the line" very much like in escrima.
    The ground track could be on a triangle, or on a circle.
    If we go to the inside, we first step off the line. Similar to a wing chun entry -- get off his center line while putting him on your own center line.

    And whether we move in or out, we like to end up standing right next to the attacker, snuggly close.
  16. Joe karate

    Joe karate New Member

    In Kempo we use mostly boxers slip. Now we also block but we do it in conjunction with the slipping. Sometimes we place greater emphasis on the slipping and sometimes more on the block, although mostly its the slip to avoid a punch and a block to parry slightly.

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