wrestling dropped from the Olympics ?!?!

Discussion in 'Wrestling' started by axelb, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    It's not been especially good for the development Judo or TKD. Many feel that they've been harmed as arts by the Olympics.
    Where's the pro Judo, Pro TKD and Pro wrestling (don't make the obvious comment)? The risk is that the Olympics come to be seen as the pinnacle of the sport, which is not conducive to developing it as a professional event.
  2. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

  3. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    how has judo development been hurt by the olympics?
  4. Stolenbjorn

    Stolenbjorn Valued Member

    If they admit UFC into it, it's OK :p

    Seriously; if heeding the classical greek games, one should have UFC (pankrateon allowing eye-gouging, biting and stuff is perhaps a little too violent):cool:
  5. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    It's become increasingly specialised with an ever narrowing focus in an effort to maintain a unique aesthetic and justify their inclusion.
  6. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    i just don't see your point. the rules have evolved over time. and most of what we would consider judo rules now, first came into play in some form in the 20's and then later post-war, before olympic inclusion.

    sure, there have been changes post-olympic acceptance with regards to time limit, certain techniques (no flying scissors, etc.), and scoring. but i don't get how that narrows something that's already been the case.
  7. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member

  8. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    Where's the pro karate, pro aikido, and pro wing chun? Pro BJJ? The ONLY fighting arts with meaningful professional circuits exist are knockout-oriented full-contact fighting arts (boxing and MMA in the US, Muay Thai in other parts of the world). If nobody is getting knocked out cold, there's just not enough audience appeal for a successful professional circuit. Sad but true.
  9. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    pro aikido!!! marv albert: giovanni executes a perfect shihonage with time running down to WIN! YES!!!

    the interesting thing about high-level judo and bjj is that the athletes are basically professionals, even though they're not making money off competing. but to be at that high of a level, say xande ribiero, you're basically training all day every day.

    i don't know, but if say marcelo garcia won the world ibjjf championship in the open class, does he get money for it?
  10. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    It's not me who's complaining, this is what Judo people complain about. The rules have changed a lot in the last 20-30 years, the leg grab rules just being one of the examples. Ne Waza has all but disappeared and many bread and butter strategies are now not legal.
  11. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    As we're talking about a knockout orientated full contact sport (although I believe people do get appearance fees at some no gi events) then aiming to develop it as a professional sport rather than elevate the amateur game would be sensible, no?
  12. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

  13. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Just to be clear, the open weight Advanced Division at ADCC has something like $100,000 to the winner.
  14. Bozza Bostik

    Bozza Bostik Antichrist on Button Moon

  15. IMAS

    IMAS Banned Banned

    The advantage of getting Pangration into the Olympic is because modern pangration is developing rules to meet the tastes of the IOC instead of the norms of a particular sport.

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