wrestling dropped from the Olympics ?!?!

Discussion in 'Wrestling' started by axelb, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    It goes doubly for equestrian sports though. Horse riding, at any level, is a very expensive hobby. There simply aren't very many opportunities for inner city kids to learn to ride.

    The general sports divide between comprehensive and private education is simply a matter of the attention sport receives in general at those educational institutions. It's one of the reasons why if I'm ever cursed with offspring, that I will do everything I can to have them privately educated. I can always beat the toff out of them later.
  2. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Yeah, it's a sad fact that much of the blind Judo was more entertaining because there wasn't the long stretches of defensive hand fighting.
  3. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    As a shooter, but also as a fan of the Olympics, I'd like to see them take shooting out of the Olympics before they touch wrestling. Shooting is a challenging and technical sport but it's also not athletic, and IMO only stuff that's athletic in one way or another should be in the Olympics.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKUJ1SXiYt8"]Peter Wilson explains Olympic shooting sports - YouTube[/ame]
  4. marinevet63031

    marinevet63031 Hapkido/Koryo Gumdo/TKD

    Every high school has wrestling so to speak. But I agree take shooting or equestrian, rich people hobbies.
  5. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    Shooting isn't a rich people's hobby in the US. It's a very working-class sport. Indeed, in the US, most rich or upper-middle-class people look down on it as a "redneck" pastime.

    I think it should be removed from the Olympics due to its lack of athleticism, not due to some aristocratic nature.

    Fencing is a "rich people's hobby" but it's also an athletic combat sport that's been there since the dawn of the modern Olympics, so I think it should stay.
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2013
  6. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    I'll keep my temper in check for MAP friendly forum.

    I've already had quite a few heated arguments about Wushu being in the Olympics with my fellow KungFu'ers. I'm against, always has been. I would rather see San Shou/Sanda in it, its pretty much tailored for it anyway. You got the combat aspect, protection gear can be borrowed off the TKD guys, boxing gloves off the boxing guys...sorted.

    Point to me the direction of where the petition to save wrestling is....

    A little banner I found :)

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  7. Kwajman

    Kwajman Penguin in paradise....

    I don't know a lot of people who watch much of the olympics except the opening/closing ceremony anyway. Wouldn't matter to me. How about wet t-shirt contests?
  8. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

  9. Haakon

    Haakon Valued Member

    There are probably hundreds of them today, here's one on FB http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Olympic-Wrestling/140684176096583?ref=stream
    44,000 "likes" in less than a day, seems to have a lot of support.
  10. boards

    boards Its all in the reflexes!

    Wrestling is practically non existent in Australia as far as I can tell, but every small town that I go through has a active pony club and I heard more people talking about it when the Olympics was on than I did wrestling or even boxing and TKD. But wrestling has a big following around the world and should never have been dropped.

    Out of those sports I think squash has the best chance. Its got a big following around the world.
    Karate - too similar to TKD
    Baseball/softball - dropped after 5? Olympics, can't see them bringing it back soon.
    Sport Climbing - to hard to judge I think?
    Wushu - again too like TKD or gymnastics in the eyes of many.
    Wakeboarding - be cool to see.
    Roller sports - which ones and will they differentiate them from ice skating sports in the Winter Olympics.
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2013
  11. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu

    I'm with you there Mushroom! I've been in the same boat in regards to kungfu brothers on the side of WuShu being in. I would rather something else.

    When my kungfu teacher was pushing wushu as a Olympic game, I heard that they initially tried to include SanShou, but because of boxing/tkd/wrestling they thought it would not have as much chance as WuShu (taolu).

    I would much prefer having Sanshou in, but it's not even close to a contender.

    I think it is a massive disappointment and shows how far removed the IOC has come in terms of what is Olympics.

    The Olympics is now another sporting event with the banner "Olympics".

    It is just a brand name heading the event, and what comes under the banner depends on which IOC board members have their fingers in which sport "pies".

    I'm signing the petition also, but I doubt it will have any affect on the outcome. :( :cry:
  12. Kuniku

    Kuniku The Hairy Jujutsuka

    Is there a link to the petition? I've only seen the facebook one, which I can't access at work >_<
  13. gapjumper

    gapjumper Intentionally left blank

    Pony wrestling? That could work.

  14. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Valued Member

    Errr... if you're talking about the tie-breaks in greco, then the top man has to do anything but stall, he has to turn his opponent or lose the round.

    I agree the greco was pretty dry for non-fans, but the freestyle was an amazing competition.
  15. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member

    I was thinking more of the thing where the balls are used to decide who will start on top in freestyle with the other person on their hands and knees. Score a point and then avoid getting scored on once you are ahead. Not needed. Think there was also something similar for greco. Just let them fight .. it was never this complicated when I was competing.

  16. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    The tie-break in Greco just meant that everyone stalled waiting for the tie-break. You may as well have just had 30 second rounds.
  17. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    I think the inclusion of Taolu as an event would be catastrophic for Kung Fu, and while the inclusion of San Shou would be good for class numbers, I don't think it'd be especially good for the development of the sport. It would also probably spell the death knell for Koushu Lei Tai.
    I personally feel that San Shou would be best served by trying to establish it as a professional sport like K1 or S-Cup.
  18. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Valued Member

    They haven't had that in freestyle for several years, now. The clinch for tie-breaking at the end of a scoreless period is a high-crotch, like so:

    It kind of is needed because you've got to break a tie somehow. I prefer this to compulsory par terre because take-downs are more interesting, spectator-friendly and fighting-relevant than gut wrenches.
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2013
  19. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Valued Member

    Why's that? The level would definitely go up, and it's a pretty good open rule-set where TKD'ers or whoever could have a crack as well.
    Having a thriving amateur scene to draw fighters from would help with that, wouldn't it?
  20. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    I agree! I'm just basing with what choices are given at the moment, out of Wushu and Sanda I would rather have Sanda.

    But I rather have wrestling.

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