would martial arts help you in prison?

Just asking, the background is some US ex veterans told me (online- on paltalk) they'd literally kill me, or anyone else who burned an american flag- they said they'd be willing to go to jail for it.

I'm assuming they have some kind of martial arts training as most veterans do/have. Well, so once they were there, how would they do in prison. I mean, it's definitely good to have some martial arts if you're going to be there, for sure, but it doesn't seem like it would make much of a difference. Sure, he can take on a few guys, but say 6 who want to gang-rape/beat or even kill him? Unless, he has own gang of other vets who have killed people who burned flags in there with him, I think he may regret having kill those flag burners.

 

Depends what they did role wise as to what training they would get. And Martial arts in prision is sketchy. any martiala rt you coudl teach somone else would be useful and if you could do fitness things as well might for the whole service thing. it also depends on waht catergory, not every prision is a cat A prision or psychriatric hospital. But yes in general numbers wins. Just a sketchy topic because if you respond wrong or do soemthing wrong you could be deemed the aggressor then charged with a assualt charge or worse.

Edit: most if not every solider would get aggression training as part of their training anyway.

 

Its like street ambushes/attacks on steroids. The only thing i seedenoting a "good prsion martial arts" is if its based on close fighting. XP I saw ona wiki one called that, dont know if it wa sprsioneers who made it or what but thats the only thing that denoted it a "prision" one. Only useful if you have those brawls you see on TV or doccumentaries. Good thing they don't stick murders and gang members in with non violent crimes.

 

Most vets have about as much expertise in H2H as any one else.Meaning for all intents and purposes,none. I'd be much more concerned about cordite powered projectile weapons in their hands!

Friend of mine was a prison guard and serious weight trainer. Guy he knew,another serious (and big) lifter got sent up (not where my friend worked) for a year or so. Later my friend asked how he did in there. The answer? "It doesn't matter how big and strong you are when a dozen guys come in your cell and throw a blanket over your head."

P.S.-Talk is cheap,and did those guys ask their wives/ kids/moms how they'd feel about them going to prison for murder/manslaughter? I've seen more than one flag burned,nobody got killed.While the world is rife with morons... most don't actually off people for burning flags and such.

Most.

 

One thing I didn't think about was if they are on active duty when they commit a crime (not like vets that have been discharged and are civilians again) would they go to a military prison? Like Fort Levenworth, or is that just for crimes under the military code of justice/military crimes. I'm thinking military prisons may be more tame.

 

Did he not care about getting caught? It would be blindingly obvious it was him that did it, as he'd be caught in the act, I wonder what additional sentence he got.

 

What about actual violence against another individual like you described, did he burn his OWN EMPTY bed three times? That's basically would just be considered almost vandalism, simply destroying his sheets- they could just fine him.

 

This question reminds me of people when they talk about their fetishes.

You know how people virtue signal in order to increase their standing in their given social group? Veterans are no different. If you're even talking to a veteran and not somebody trying to grab status by saying they're a veteran, I 99.9% guarantee if you burned a flag in front of them they would not kill you. They probably wouldn't even beat you. At most they might snatch it away and give you a good yelling. You can't really be an "ex" veteran by the way. Are you sure you're not projecting a personal desire to see people who served a country whose policies you don't agree with be beaten in jail or something?

 

I suppose I would if they killed me for burning a flag, who wouldn't? Getting killed for a such a ridiculous reason like that. But, I wondered if they really just weren't thinking it through what they'd go through in prison. About the ex veteran part, does a vet have to be someone specifically who's served in combat/war, or just someone who was in the miltary but never saw combat during a peaceful time?

 

In the U.S. a veteran is a person who served in a time of war. So basically anyone who served in the military from 1776 to today is a veteran, lol. The U.S. Veteran Affairs differentiates veterans when giving benefits between being a veteran and a "combat" veteran. The latter getting an automatic 5 years free medical care at Veteran Affairs facilities regardless of if they have service connected disabilities or not.

There are plenty of veterans out there that would say they disagree with you burning a flag, but would defend your right to do so. The guys you're talking to are very likely 300+lb basement dwellers that are virtue signaling to get applause from whomever they associate with on that given social platform. I wouldn't even think twice about it.

 

Yeah, it's odds on that the guy threatening you is a fatty in a basement, just like Ero

 

Stop fat shaming me!!! ::runs away crying::

I'm working on not being a fatty (although I'm a fatty who does a lot of physical labor so it's not the same!), but they don't have basements in Florida because it's at or under sea level. SO THERE! Proved you wrong! xD

 

I thought basements were banned because they keep finding (some) prisoners.

 

Just a quick clarification, in the US, "Veteran means a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable." (eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations)

Even though some veterans and some civilians differentiate between 'combat veterans' and 'non combat veterans', service in war is NOT a requirement to be a veteran. Yes, veterans who served in certain combat zones tend to be eligible for more benefits, but those who served outside of combat are still considered 'veterans'. This is why you see different types of service organizations, such as the AMVETs (accept all veterans), American Legion (veterans who served during time of war), and the Veterans of Foreign Wars/VFW (veterans who served in a designated combat zone).

I am a veteran who did not serve in combat but am still considered a 'veteran' and am eligible for certain benefits.

Most, if not all, veterans should have received training on their primary weapons, most likely rifles. Some may be trained on grenades, machine guns, pistols, and so on. Some may be very well equipped to call in (available) air strikes and the sort. But, as for as martial arts training, it really varies greatly on the unit. Some get a few hours of basic H2H and some get extensive training in 'combatives'. Some study on their own time. It is very hard to generalize the level of any sort of hand to hand training veterans may have.

As far as the 'I will kill you if you burn the flag' thing goes, much of it is just talk. You are right in that few veterans (at least in my friend circles) would be willing to go to jail just to beat up some idiot burning a flag. Granted, I'd caution reason in where you burn the flag... like a nice well supervised (by law enforcement) rally should be safe... I wouldn't recommend it late night in the VFW parking lot.

 

They are just jealous they cant generate as much power in their punches as you.

 

Um, what exactly is the problem you're seeing here?

 

Martial arts in general would help you anywhere but their are different kinds of martial arts and have different advantages. so the question you should be asking is which kind of martial art would be most helpful in a prison environment.