I'm interested in buying a pair of pads and have begun looking at whats available. One pair offered by a popular UK high street retailer [I think many of you will know who] come across as considerably tougher than the rest.It seems they have a thin but hard layer in front of the regular foam padding. I'm thinking something like these would be good as they would offer some conditioning for the fists,but would provide resistance to spear and regular elbow techniques that I'd like to practice. The problem with these particular pads is that they're curved,I think they would be more useful if flat like traditional mitts. So,Would anyone care to recommend a tough/flat pad that might fit the bill ?.I'm thinking along the lines of genuine leather pads also as I ca'nt see the outer of a vinyl pad being able to stand up to this kind of use for long.