What is the precise definition of martial arts?

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Discussion' started by BrendanCassidy, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. BrendanCassidy

    BrendanCassidy Valued Member

    As coordinates are not least to nothing...so motion and energy are not necessarily martials arts..

    Martial arts means..having coordinated points "in combat"..or "in competition"

    So any type of competition could be said to be martial arts?>
     
  2. BrendanCassidy

    BrendanCassidy Valued Member

    As long as its in the way..of the moment..otherwise the coordinates are failures...

    Means immediate energy..in a powerful packed instant..of your own expression of strength..

    This means attainment for the little man..and non attainment for the big man..

    Bruce Lee...was all about measuring distances and coming to terms with them?

    Or the taking in of distances..at the fastest rate possible..
     
  3. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    Martial arts = skills associated with fighting taught within a structured framework. I'm really not sure what you were saying otherwise.
     
  4. BrendanCassidy

    BrendanCassidy Valued Member

    So there is degrees of fighting.. When we call it competition...there is competition between businesses....should they be practicing martial arts.. or is that a form of martial arts..? Or is it martial law?
     
  5. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    I've literally no idea how to respond further to this.
     
  6. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    Someone's been on the wacky-baccy.
     
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  7. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    That's an insult to potheads everywhere.
     
  8. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    Actually, motion and energy are precisely what martial arts are. The word 'motion' means the change in position of a body. The word 'energy' means the capacity for doing the work necessary to change the body's position. ('Body' is anything in the physical universe that has mass or energy and retains its shape, not necessarily just a human body.)

    Martial arts are very easy to define and it doesn't require esoteric concepts or vocabulary: A martial art is the performance of movement patterns (sequential motor actions dedicated to the completion of a given task) within the context of practicing unarmed or armed combat techniques, typically as a sport or some other codified system that is given a specific name ('karate,' 'Taekwondo,' etc).
     
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  9. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    Mod Note: Listen BrendanCassidy. Frankly, this is rather nonsensical. If you are going to make far out wild claims or suppositions, you are going to have to do a much better job of explaining the reasoning why in a coherent fashion. Be warned that failure to do so could be discussed among the mod team with regards to possible trolling, which is against the TOS. This isn't the first time you have been asked to back up or explain what you are saying with regards to this.
     
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  10. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Where are you getting this generic competition angle from?
    Martial arts = arts of Mars
    Mars = Roman god of war
     
  11. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    There's this thing called the internet which makes etymology really easy.

    Martial as a term comes from 14th Century medieval latin, and survives in terms such as "court-martial". As Ben says, it derives from Mars, the Roman god of war.

    The earliest entry of the term "martial arts" is from 1909, pertaining to the fighting sports of Japan and surrounding area.

    martial | Origin and meaning of martial by Online Etymology Dictionary
     
  12. BrendanCassidy

    BrendanCassidy Valued Member

    What I'm asking is could any type of competition be called martial arts..?
     
  13. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

  14. Rand86

    Rand86 likes to butt heads

    Lockdown's sure doing a number on some folks, huh?
     
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  15. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    By lockdown, do you mean all locksmiths or just tenth planet locksmiths?
     
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  16. hewho

    hewho Valued Member

    Martial-to do with combat. Art-to do with aesthetics.
    In this essay I aim to argue that the only true definition of martial arts is to kick butt, and look good while doing it!
     
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  17. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    So the best martial arts is WMMA?

    Caus Angela Lee looks better then Brock Lesnar!
     
  18. hewho

    hewho Valued Member

    Depends on your particular taste I guess!
     
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  19. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    All joking aside, this isn't a new idea.

    For the past 40 years or more corporate culture has taken inspiration from books such as The Book of Five Rings.

    How applicable a book like that is to running a corporation is up for debate, but my guess is it is like reading tea leaves - you take from it what you want, even if it is not applicable to the context.
     
  20. Botta Dritta

    Botta Dritta Valued Member


    Mileage may vary. Martial arts encompass Techniques, Tactics and to some extent Strategy. Most of what we practice tends to be technical/tactical.

    Jabbing is a technique. Entering distance while jabbing in order to set up an opponent to (X) is tactical. Setting up a training regime/diet for yourself/students or scouting out your next opponent modus operandi is Strategic. Naturally context is important. Sun Tzu 5 constants can be modernised and used

    The way - Business atmospherics
    Earth - Business Capital/Market environment
    Heaven - Time scales/Fixed immutable Events
    Commander - Executive decision making/delegation
    Method and Discipline - Human Resources/Training/logistics

    Is this the best way in the modern world to approach business? SHRUG. who knows?

    In Guy Windsors Book the Theory and Practice of Historical martial arts (HEMA) he breaks down his own theory in Seven Principles. He points out that in the East its the breakdowns are usually in 5 or 8 Principles because in classical Chinese these numbers have historical cultural significance, while in the West we used to do work in 7's (3+4)
    seven liberal arts, seven knightly arts, seven virtues etc. I think you would be hard pressed to persuade a business owner on the wisdom of basing his strategy on the Trivium + Quadrivium. But if its from the far mystical east ..Voila! Instant efficiency. A lot of corporate culture focus on Sun Tzu/Musashi does so without even looking if the structure any longer relevant to the context. Personally I like the Kalashnikov Principle: any process has to have only 8 working parts because most people can't remember lists of 10 things.
     

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