What are you working on?

Discussion in 'Judo' started by Herbo, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    I have replaced that picture with a new one. In the old picture, the toes has already turned and the locking has already been released. What do you think about the new one?

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    It's "Kawazu-gake" but applied on the outer leg. I don't know it still shares the same name in Judo.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/TsfLH6QlKSY&fs=1&source=uds&autoplay=1
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2012
  2. Mangosteen

    Mangosteen Hold strong not

    from the way you're torquing the head and arm, it looks like the no-gi application of o soto gari we use but i see how the foot placement is different making Kawazu-gake a better fit.
     
  3. Herbo

    Herbo Valued Member

    If it is indeed a hooking motion, as opposed to a reaping motion then it would be osoto gake instead of osoto gari. However it's hard to tell whats going on from a picture.
     
  4. Pkhamidar2com

    Pkhamidar2com Panda Member

    I think im going to go for an hour and a half worth of randori. Although going in as a white belt, against a whole group of just black beaters is a bit daunting to say the least. But i think I will benefit from this well.

    When i first went to judo i went on that day that it was randori day. Obviously i didnt do much randori, i didnt know any moves, all i knew was what they taught me which was osoto gari, and even then i was utterly crap at it XD.

    But now, still being utterly terrible, i feel if i can pull of at least one throw decent throw, i will walk away a happy man :p... until next time >_>, next time i need to be able to pull off at least 5 <_< haha ;)

    What im working on right now, is actually getting the person off balance. But you cant really do that alone. So i was practicing that yesterday after class, just practicing making space.

    Then applied it to Ippon Seoi Nage.

    God I love Judo
     
  5. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    It's pressing down, twisting, kicking out, and sinking. All 4 motions combine in 1, as showing in the following equipment training picture. At the end of this move, your hip will "sit on" your opponent's upper leg and let him to feel your body wight. This will cause your opponent's knee joint to bend side way, and collapse his body structure. In Chinese wrestling, it's callled "outer leg twist". Without proper caution, this move can cause some serious knee injury even in training (this is why only picture is shown and not clip).

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    It's a bit different from the regular "leg twist (Kawazu-gake)" as shown in the following clip.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NgXae8ApQE"]leg twist - YouTube[/ame]
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2012
  6. Herbo

    Herbo Valued Member

    I think I see what you're getting at now. Sounds like a recipe for knee surgeries. Also my take on the video is that as soon as tori hooks uke's leg he'd be in a better position to throw with uchi mata than the leg twist.
     
  7. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    There are moves that you use in tournament. There are moves that you will only used againt "unfrendly challenger".

    The "leg twist (Kawazu-gake)" can be changed into leg lift (Uchi Mata) anytime you want to.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2012
  8. Pkhamidar2com

    Pkhamidar2com Panda Member

    Thought i would share this. Why do they keep saying play golf. How does playing golf prevent these injuries?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKAgGn40Jhc"]Common Judo Injuries - YouTube[/ame]
     
  9. finite monkey

    finite monkey Thought Criminal

    Play golf instead of judo
     
  10. Pkhamidar2com

    Pkhamidar2com Panda Member

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Cr2FmXEpQ&feature=g-vrec&context=G2f6967bRVAAAAAAAAAw"]Olympic Judo training NJ - YouTube[/ame]

    what is the throw at 0:33 seconds of that video. I saw this in the thumbnail, and its a throw i cant seem to get correct. I nearly hurt someones neck very badly doing it wrong, after that i didn't attempt it again.
     
  11. Princess Haru

    Princess Haru Valued Member

  12. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    In Chinese wrestling, there is a move that you

    - use your arm to surround your opponent's waist,
    - use your knee to lift him under his hip (you are standing on one leg), and
    - throw him behind you.

    It's called "擓(Kuai) - Leg bending lift" in SC. What will you call that in Judo?

    Also what you call this "foot sweep" in Judo?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwS0aPedoEo"]Karate sweeps with Val Mijailovic 3/4 - YouTube[/ame]
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2012
  13. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    As its a throw that ties up both the hands so they cant breakfall, you have to be capable if throwing them safely in static practise before trying it in randori, I would wait till uou get the standard one arm controlled throws down first before trying this.
    In jujutsu ive seen similier throws being called morote seoi nage, but I think in judo it might be called something else.
     
  14. finite monkey

    finite monkey Thought Criminal

    There is a bit of this (ko uchi gari)

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj5v7M23zQI"]ko uchi gari - YouTube[/ame]

    And a bit of that (okuri ashi harai)

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFLZWZQovpQ"]Yasuhiro Yamashita - Okuri Ashi Barai - YouTube[/ame]
     
  15. Herbo

    Herbo Valued Member

    The original throw in the video would be sode-tsurikomi-goshi as opposed to just tsurikomi-goshi as the throw is performed from a double sleeve grip.
     
  16. Herbo

    Herbo Valued Member

    The motion in the initial demonstration looks most similar to okuri ashi barai imho, however as its karate its performed more as a kick than a sweep.
     
  17. finite monkey

    finite monkey Thought Criminal

    Herbo, whats the differance between harai and barai?
     
  18. Herbo

    Herbo Valued Member

    One has a b and one has an h. Haha, in all seriousness, I believe its just due to how you romanize the Japanese. I could be wrong though so any Japanese speakers please correct me.

    Okuri ashi barai/harai = following foot sweep
    de ashi barai/harai = advancing foot sweep
    harai goshi = sweeping hip

    Although I've never heard anyone called it barai goshi.
     
  19. Pkhamidar2com

    Pkhamidar2com Panda Member

  20. Herbo

    Herbo Valued Member

    sode-tsurikomi goshi
     

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