First you say women can learn to punch with power...then you say it may be hormonal. Tell me....how can a woman LEARN to produce more testosterone needed to produce the power? Would a more knowledgeable instructor be able to teach internal elevation of testosterone? The fact of the matter is, you have no clue what you're talking about. Elevated GH, decreased Cortisol, peaked Epi and Norepi and Estrodiol are more important in the discussion concerning punching power. Testosterone is an anabolic and is more important in building muscle mass...but as Pugil rightly pointed out, many of the best punchers don't have particularly big or muscular arms.
You're so full of yourself you can't see the light of day. I'm NOT comparing women to men when stating that women can be taught to punch with power. When addressing a question which does compare the sexes, that's when I mentioned hormonal differences. So what makes you such an authority? Are you some kind of EMT with a JD? I've been crystal clear about my background regarding MA knowledge, so a little reciprocity would be nice.
For the record, Pugil actually said the opposite; that heavyweight-class boxers don't need to develop any *technique* to punch with power since they posses the size and strength to easily accomplish a KO.
You really need help with your reading comprehension. I'll quote him word for word for you: "many of the best knockout specialists don't have particularly big arms." So much for your testosterone theory!
Nope. It's clearly YOU who has a problem with looking at EVERYTHING that's been said. For those with brain impairments, this means that KO specialists (i.e. those who work at being able to knock out their competitors), must develop some sort of skill/technique if lacking the size and strength to do it naturally. As a result, most KO specialists who aren't behemoths have a tendency not to have particularly massive arms since they rely on skill instead.
Keep twisting and changing your story. The fact remains that you need some reading comprehension classes. Heavyweight boxers have big arms by their very classification....they are HEAVYWEIGHTS. If they weren't big and if they didn't weigh alot...they wouldn't be heavyweights in the first place...duh! Further, you say people have to work on technique and that these people "have a tendency not to have particularly massive arms since they rely on skill instead." Incorrect. You can have skill, rely on technique and the very nature of training can develop massive arms...they are not mutually exclusive.
Talk about spin-doctoring... I never said that skill was a substitute for strength training, nor that they are mutually exclusive. FWIW Besides, the discussion wasn't about what I said, but rather what Pugil had said or implied. By discounting heavyweight boxers, the implication is OBVIOUS that size and strength DO play an important role. So much for your comprehension skills. :yeleyes:
Take all the rope you need to hang yourself. LOL. Wait, tell me again how women can learn to increase their testosterone levels to develop punching power....
LOL...there you go again. Wrong again. Technique plays a bigger role in developing power via "rotation of the hips and through the legs from the floor." My reading is that even small people can generate punching power through proper technique. You don't have to have size or strength to have power....as long as you have good technique.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall that Pugil would never have been inspired to contribute that tidbit of info if you hadn't bemoaned the fact that "For a woman... punching power is less of a factor even with years of practice." (per post #84)
Pugil's contribution was entirely logical and if you notice, I immediately agreed with him in theory. My understanding was that even women, who generally are smaller than men, can generate punching power through proper technique. The whole united movement starting from the legs, hips and on up makes sense. And yet, a good theory is not always seen in practice. Hence I pointed out that in real life, women fighters have much less recorded KOs and women sprinters have much worse racetimes. So when sound theory doesn't yield practical results...a logical person would ask why? And thus I proposed rotational velocity from basic physics.
All your incorrect statements from size and strength to testosterone. As I suspected, you can't admit you're wrong. So tell me again how instructors can help women increase their testosterone levels....
A couple of years (or so) ago, they had a punching power machine at one of the UK martial art shows — SENI I believe. A smallish female martial artist — a Thai Boxer if memory serves me right — was urged by her friends to 'have a go, just for fun' after watching some big guys whacking this thing. She was totally relaxed before punching, and without any expectation of doing very well at all, she unleashed an almost lightning-fast strike. Everyone's jaws virtually hit the floor. She set a figure that was not equalled over the entire weekend. I'm sure someone out there still has the martial arts magazine with her on the front cover?
I never said that, Ms. spin-doctor. I did say that size and strength play a factor in generating power, and I defy you to find a law in physics which disproves that. The bigger and stronger you are, the harder you can hit. Technique is only brought into the comparison when discussing the difference in power generated by a single individual. As for the physiology aspect, I'm still waiting on your background in medicine. I have none, other than the few courses I studied at university, as well as subsequent reading on my own in order to satisfy curiosity developed from my profession as a MA instructor.
Incidentally, my comment about sprinters wasn't in any way implying that females should be as fast as a man at sprinting. What I was really talking about was how the drive to propel the body forward comes from the legs, with the feet pretty much firmly anchored. Try pushing a car with one foot off the floor. The best and most powerful of punches will usually require the knee to be in the same plane as the direction of the punch, and with the ball of the foot in contact with the floor — like a sprinter pushing into the blocks.
Yep, you are maximizing potential energy so you can translate it to explosive kinetic energy off the blocks. The floor contact you mention incorporates static frictional force to aid the overall power. Ever see a "superman" punch? Looks powerful but not nearly as powerful as the foot contact you mention.
Punching Power = Mass x Acceleration x Distance/Time Size may affect the Mass component. Strength may often play no role (or may aid velocity). Good technique affects acceleration and velocity (d/t) and thus despite smaller Mass, good technique can generate great punching power by affecting acceleration and velocity, which individually, is just as important as Size (mass) alone.
Hi, VM. I can't tell by your last post if you are confirming or challenging what I said. I'd hate to respond based on an incorrect assumption of what you meant.