Videos of Good kung fu

Discussion in 'Kung Fu' started by Tom bayley, May 19, 2015.

  1. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    Very simple - put in a link. say what is good about it.


    Structure in the stances gives good movement of waist with good connection to ground for transmitting force to and from the ground. Focused use of dynamic tension. (i.e very tense in some areas but simultaneously very relaxed in others). Clear use of tension in the core to store energy. Focused explosive release of stored energy. Excellent coordination of entire body in all movements from feet to fingertips.

    Wish I could do this that well.
  2. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    [ame=""]Three Sectional Staff of Choy Li Fut Kung Fu - YouTube[/ame]
    Fluent technique, smooth transitions, good intent.
  3. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

  4. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    More Wang!!!!

  5. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    Solo training = partner training without partner

    You train exactly as you fight.

    Last edited: May 21, 2015
  6. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    Aside from the entertaining name. What, in your opinion, makes this clip good kung fu?
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Timing, rhythm, flow and precision in the application. His mechanics are sublime

    Plus he beat the snot out of a lot of people live and is regarded as one of the biggest badasses of modern CMA
  8. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    out of interest is there a list of the guys he fought? Or any footage of him fighting?
    I have heard this before about Wang, both Frantzis and Smith talk about the guy in their books, but both those guys are known to embellish and tcma is full of stories like this.
    I have never seen anything about specific fights he has had other than anecdotal talk, for example talking a punch from dolman, but nothing concrete talking about who is has beat and when ?
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    There is an account in "Moving Zen" about Wang basically schooling the entire dojo. He is also known tonhave been punched and hit without effect by Bluming and apparently Joe Louis. He droooed Draeger and apparently handed Chiba his ass too

    Sadly nothing more than anecdote, but he was universally respected in an industry where no one likes anyone!
  10. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    My School's head and founder, Tai Sigung Nathan Fisher. A staff form where the staff looks like a weapon, not an oversized baton to twirl around.

    [ame=""]Five Deadly Touch Staff - Choy Li Fut - YouTube[/ame]
  11. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Im surprised someone like you is willing to go off anecdotal evidence for someone’s fighting ability, especially someone in the Chinese martial arts community we all know what that’s like for telling tall stories lol :eek::evil::evil:

    And I am not sure respect for him was universal, I think I have only seen him mentioned in a handful of books?

    Hung I-Hsiang was also talked about in and in those same books in similar ways and just like wang there aren’t any clips of him fighting or sparring, but a number of his students went on to fight fiull contact and win at publically held events I have never heard of any of Wangs guys doing something similar?

    I just find it strange that someone who is talked about in such high regard in certain places has no clips of themselves or their students fighting anywhere?
  12. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Hung couldn't touch Wang even by his own admission :)

    My Wang admiration is a quirk of mine...I cannot give you anything more solid than I "dig" what i see...or "the movement tells all" in other words
  13. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    re: wang shu-jin: you have to take into account about that anecdotal evidence that much of it came from japanese martial artists (if memory serves, in the part of moving zen that hannibal menions, the author reports nakayama saying something to the effect of "karate is for us normal humans, tai chi is for supermen". given that the jka peeps of that era were people who lived through wwii (some of them even fighting in it), honest admissions of a chinese martial artist's superiority are quite something (which still doesn't make them anything but anecdotal, although they're no less peculiar anyway)
  14. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Strange how all but one clip so far has been form stuff (including mine) cant imagine someone posting endless shadow boxing as a good example of boxing,

    A true chinese fighting legend actually doing some stuff on an opponent (and some nice form stuff lol)
  15. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    brendan tunk's people from australia doing some sparring (old clip with non-advanced students, but i still like it quite a bit). may not be full contact balls to the wall vale tudo style fighting, but they have plenty of oomph and they actually try to use mantis techniques within the constraints of that type of sparring (hands only plus takedowns according to the description). there are also videos on their channel of several of tunks' peeps competing in more mainstream combat sports, which is always nice to see.
  16. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    I love the economy of movement in this. The more accomplished the martial artist the less extraneous movement. The movements of a great martial artist have a clarity that comes from doing what is needed and only what is needed to achieve the effect.

  17. Matt F

    Matt F Valued Member

    The most likely take on Wang I have come across is that he was a big,powerful guy full stop, making him a difficult opponent for anyone even if he never trained. Add this some knowledge from Chinese systems of how to use the body and a mind set of being up for a fight and you have a difficult guy to handle.
    Accounts of his encounters vary but seem to be him taking shots on his large stomach and sometimes groin, which are realy parlour tricks, although not easy, and him literally pushing or man handling people, using his powerful build to his advantage.
    What I dont think he does is show how effective any particular Chinese system is but more show that a big, powerful guy with intent is a difficult opponent.

    Don't get me wrong, the Chinese stylists were on to something in terms of trying to understand the use of the human body to move and generate power, but it has to be put into a fighting context, in real ,chaotic fight time and understood alongside up to date knowledge on human athletic movement.....not just done in a form or a demo.
  18. ned

    ned Valued Member

    What I like about this guy ; firmly rooted , strength, sensitivity to read his opponent, with timing, speed and technique to overcome the difference in size.

    [ame=""]push hand 80kg-up! å‹!!! é‡é‡ç´šæŽ¨æ‰‹,引進è½ç©º! - YouTube[/ame]
  19. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Good points and this is why I brought upHung I-Hsiang, he too was talked about in the same books in a similar way as Wang, but he has produced students and grand students with proven winning full contact fight records, to be honest tcma is so full of guys doing good demos and being talked about in terms of awe by students and people looking to sell books that without a proper record to judge them on its impossible to say how good they were
  20. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    Clean and beautiful techniques:

    Last edited: May 25, 2015

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