Training to incredible pain...

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Noib Da Mutt, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. Noib Da Mutt

    Noib Da Mutt Banned Banned

    Ok, first, I'm going to tell you the workout I did, then I'm going to tell the result of it...


    Ok, it seemed innocent enough as I planned out my workout during the 2 mile run to the track... I followed that run by some stretching and I ran 6 100 meter sprints with a 100 meter rest interval... Would've done more, but I haven't been doing much running lately... After that, I drank some water, recovered a lap and did lunges the length of the entire football field, and I mean outside of the endzone at the end of the actual field, all the way to the other side, which is more than 100 yards... seemed innocent enough, but before I was halfway done, I really started feeling the weakness in my legs, pure will got me past the halfway point, and I stopped to rest about 20 seconds before going another 20 yards or so, then resting, and another before resting again and finishing it off... It suprised the hell out of me because I didn't expect that one thing to be such an intense workout... And to top it off, in addition to barely being able to walk, my bright self decides to run another mile around the track... After the first lap I feel like laying down, but somehow I finish the mile by continuing to ask myself "how much heart does he have?" For some reason that worked... So anyways, I can barely walk and I walk the two miles back to campus, I hurt alot, but whatever, I always hurt when I train seriously...

    So, the next day, and my legs feel unlike any pain I've ever felt from training, the entire quad muscle group on each leg is dead and full of pain every time I move it, I can't even walk down stairs without wincing incredibly, I'm barely able to get myself around the pain is so intense... Honestly, it is unlike anything I've ever experienced... The pain was amazing every step I took, nothing I've done has ever caused this much pain, and in fact, I'm not sure I've experienced such pain for extended periods of time in my life ever, with the exception of when my neck had a muscle spasm and glued my ear to my shoulder... Anyways, I know that the pain is just muscle pain from training, but my question is, why was it so incredibly intense from the workout that I did? What are the possible reasons the workout had this effect on my body?(can't wait til I heal though, the results should be impressive)
     
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  2. Ikken Hisatsu

    Ikken Hisatsu New Member

    you probably should have stretched afterwards.
     
  3. Shadow_of_Evil

    Shadow_of_Evil wants to go climbing...

    Need to toughen up lad ;)
    Nah, but I think Ikken is right here.
     
  4. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

    You overtrained - waytogo :rolleyes:

    Pain is not ALWAYS a sign of good training effect.

    Results are measured in months not individual sessions.
     
  5. BoxBabaX

    BoxBabaX H+F Baba ^^

    stretching before and after the exercise, with some light warm up
     
  6. Knight_Errant

    Knight_Errant Banned Banned

    Lunges all across the playing field? I'm not bloody surprised. If you get enough depth, they can HURT afterwards.
    Just out of interest, why are you training like this? is your GPP so incredibly high that you can benefit from a routine like that in the long term?
    Nothing wrong with the interval running- 100M intervals are a hell of a time.
    So where does this routine fall into your long-term training plan?
     
  7. Shadowdh

    Shadowdh Seeker of Knowledge

    Sounds like my legs every time I get back into weights after a layoff...
     
  8. ninjamonkey

    ninjamonkey New Member

    Overtrained?.. After one particular session?.. How?
     
  9. Ad McG

    Ad McG Troll-killer Supporter

    No they won't! There's a reason why training is so scientific. If you just had to destroy yourself every time you trained, then why would anyone bother with science? The results will be pretty much non-existant. It will also take a few days to recover. Next time, be more conservative and try to work your way into it rather than jumping in at the deep end - the results will be far better.
     
  10. Noib Da Mutt

    Noib Da Mutt Banned Banned

    Well, I did stretch ALOT beforehand AND afterwords... As far as how this will fit into my training schedule, I'll have to see, you guys know me, I try stuff and see how it works, and if I like the results I keep it, so, give it a few days and I'll see how I feel once I've healed... The interval running stays though, I used to do that alot last summer and it was great...
     
  11. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

    By doing too much in that one particular session :rolleyes:
     
  12. Shadowdh

    Shadowdh Seeker of Knowledge


    I wouldnt label that as overtraining from one session... perhaps pushing it a bit far but it really takes several sessions over days if not weeks before serious overtraining sets in...

    NDM... I wouldnt do this sort of training regularly... as a change or a shake up its ok but not everytime (heck not even every week)... Adam is spot on when he says the results from one session dont show... its a process thing...
     
  13. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    theres a simple method my old cycling coach used to drill into me when I was training, 'If it doesn't hurt afterwards you've not done enough, but if it hurts the next day, you've done too much'
    By training so hard you've probably set yourself back by a week, and you will see absolutely no results from that session,
     
  14. GhostOfYourMind

    GhostOfYourMind Bewaters lil Iron Monkey

    I think you definitely over did it. As strength coach Charles Staley says, don't seek soreness from your training, if you want soreness, get someone to hit you with a baseball bat a few times (or something like that). ;) :D And I believe it is possible for some people to overtrain in just one session. And from what Noib posted, it's entirely possible as all that puts a huge demand on not only your muscles but also the CNS. :eek:
     
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  15. ClubbellTrainer

    ClubbellTrainer Fitness Coach

    Incremental progress is the key. Work up to stuff like this. It doesn't take too long and you won't have to take so many recovery days or suffer so much pain.

    One of the reasons pain is supposed to be a good teacher is that it's telling you not to do this again.
     
  16. Nick K

    Nick K Sometimes a Valued Member

    There was avery good link to a sprint training regime that I recall somewhere on MAP -try a search.
    It started with something like
    1st week and 2nd week 25m x10 sprints with 1 minute rest between reps, rest 10 minutes then repeat (only do once a week)
    3rd and 4th week 30m x10 sprints with 1 minute rest between reps, rest 10 minutes then repeat
    and so on up to 50m reps
    Building up any faster than this if you are not a regular runner or do relevant sports (eg soccer/hockey) and you might hurt yourself
    Sprinting is extremely demanding on your muscles, tendons and joints. But it's quick to do, easily available and cheap! And good for speed and leg strength
     
  17. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu

    yup its overtraining.
    Stretching/warm down afterwards may have helped.

    I've done it myself and couldn't do anything for 3 days (could barely walk for the first 2 days) as much as you may think it will give massive improvement... it won't.

    you would get more improvement from not overtraining that day, and training the several days after that you spent recovering. :cry:
     
  18. Shadowdh

    Shadowdh Seeker of Knowledge

    If you have been training a while then there is no problem with really caning it for 1 workout or so... pain is weakness leaving the body... (of course I mean "good" pain and not the bad injury kind)... and no you cant overtrain in one workout...
     
  19. ninjamonkey

    ninjamonkey New Member

    Eh?

    How can it be overtraining after one session?

    The principle of overtraining is training in a frequency that does not allow enough rest time. As a result, training performance decreases, and possible injuries occur. Unless if you are talking about overtraining in a different sense than I am, please specify. I'd say he just overdid it, not overtrained. Maybe overreached, as far as I'd go.
     
  20. Ad McG

    Ad McG Troll-killer Supporter

    What is the difference between overdoing it, and overtraining? To me there is none. If you are training (and not in a competition to win) then you want to garner the best results you can. Pushing yourself this hard is going too far and will most likely set you back more than anything else.
     

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