Ways to beat a YY stylist Hello Viking, I have been stressed out this week, and that should be a good excuse for my late reply. I also haven't heard from you for a long time, specially when I asked for advise on what to do with the picture I posted regarding that 1984 match. I guess you were still lurking in the background. Anyway, I will answer your query to the best of my knowledge. I can't recall many details, dates, places,names. I will still try to be as accurate as possible. I will also reduce the 'media milage' of the YY group since the YY website has not yet include my authentic photo in the photo gallery. I will hence refer to that group as YY. (Yes, you may say that I am still sore with them.) There are 5 Ways to beat a YY stylist. This is based not on some threory or speculation I have invented, but based on the analysis of actual fights of a YY champ. Just understand the following principles and put these principles to practical use: 1. The stronger, fitter and better conditioned fighter has the greater chance to win YY is a powerful style but it is not the only style that can claim that. If two fighters from similar styles clash, the stronger, fitter and better conditioned fighter will win. When the YY champ fought younger opponents in Cebu City, he lost twice to kickboxers from the camp of Danny Diaz. I think his gym is called the Tiger's Gym. You can check this info out in Cebu City. YY counter: The top YY fighters are class A athletes ready to compete at international levels. To beat a top YY fighter, you must be in class A condition. Skills or techniques alone cannot guarantee a win. 2. The fighter who uses more efficient, more effective techniques have an advantage over one that uses flashier, less effective ones Personally, I think that some of the kicking techniques of YY can be replaced by less flambouyant but more reliable standard kicks. For example, I have seen the scorpion kick thrown many times in YY competitions but these rarely hit. When YY fighters started competing against Muay Thai fighters, they found out that they could not use many of their flashy kicks. The flashy kicks required more energy and luck than the simple but very effective techniques of Muay Thai. That this is so is not surprising considering the longer history of Muay Thai, and its evolution out of different traditional styles of Thai fighting. The Korat, Chaiya, Ayuthaya, Bangkok, etc, styles of Muay Thai have blended in the sport and thus an efficient and effective form of modern Muay Thai emerged. The YY style has yet to undergo a similar kind of evolution. Coupled with the professional Muay Thai fighter's conditioning, Muay Thai is a standard to compare other kickboxing styles. YY has competed mostly at the amateur levels. To check on YY champ's Muay Thai record, you can contact Robert Valdez of AMAP (Amateur Muay Thai Association of the Philippines), where YY champ is associated with. For a balanced view, also contact former YY stylist, Orlando lapuz of the rival ATBAP (Amateur thai Boxing Association of the Philippines). Another rival club is headed by Rolly Catoy n(International Amateur Muay Thai Fedeation-Philippines) 3.Hands move faster than kicks This is how Rolly Tadefa beat YY champ - everytime YY champ moved to kick, Rolly Tadefa moved quickly into the kick, and instead of blocking it force to force, he used a go with the force kind of block, whereby YY champ was off-balanced and even uprooted. This manuever is easier said than done and can be pulled off only by a very experienced fighter. An inexperienced fighter would wait for the opponent to kick and then move once he sees the kick coming. That is too late. The trick is not in being reactive, but in being proactive. This is done by creating little openings so the opponent will kick at these. YY champ relied too much on his kicking ability and became very predictable. Rolly Tadefa didn't even have to see and recognize what kind of kick was being thrown in which direction. He already knew, or rather could sense what YY champ was about to do. YY counter: As I said, this is easier said than done. The YY guys can kick from unbelievable angles at astonishing speeds. 4. Use the opponent's force against him YY champ participated in a sport silat competition, where the rules took away many of his techniques (e.g. no leg kicks, no kicks to head, etc.). When he faced an Indonesian player, he was even more predictable than ewhen he faced Rolly Tadefa. YY champ had a much smaller choice of targets, and he always favored kicking. If Tadefa could upset YY cahmp and even uproot him using gloved hands, the Indonesian could do better with bare-hands. Also, unlike in Kickboxing, Silat rules allows one to catch a leg and throw an opponent, which is exactly what the Indonesian did. The harder one kicks, the further he can be thrown when his foot is caught, using the go-with-the-force principle. YY champ was thrown many times. To verify this story, you can always go to the PhilSilat headquarters at the Rizal Memorial Stadium. Hadji Yasser Tanadjalan is a coach there. You can ask him. 5. A kicker can't kick properly in a grappling range Once an opponent gets very close or is able to put a kicker on the ground, the fight is practically finished unless the kicker also knows how to grapple. Many YY stylists have found that out. That is why there is a secret YY training program in Bulacan, just outside of Fairview, Quezon City, where YY ArDigma is being forged. The term comes from Arnis and Pandigma ("For use in Battle"), which will be YY's answer to the grappling arts. The founder was a judo black-belt, and I won't be surprised if ArDigma has grappling moves of its own and improved hand techniques.