The GOOD Video Thread - No off topic posts allowed

Discussion in 'Ninjutsu' started by Fudo-shin, Mar 31, 2012.

  1. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Not sure if this has been posted before, but I like this one as it's nice to see Soke teaching kihon as well as showcasing the basics of different shihan

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orcMa6RXBzA"]Ninjutsu Taijutsu - Soke Masaaki Hatsumi Kihon Happo - YouTube[/ame]
     
  2. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    That Tachi nagare video is good!?
    Isn't that just a nice way to get mounted and punched in the face if it goes even 1% wrong?
     
  3. Fudo-shin

    Fudo-shin Valued Member

    <<That Tachi nagare video is good!?
    Isn't that just a nice way to get mounted and punched in the face if it goes even 1% wrong?>>

    Thats pretty close to whoever is doing that technique, not just that demo. The ukes momentum is carrying him over after breaking kuzushi by pushing him back before throwing him to where he falls forward.

    I dont think you would get mounted by performing tachi nagare any more as you would from tomoe gaeshi or kuruma gaeshi or any type of sacrifice or sutemi type throw for that matter.

    Kind of hard to launch a punch when your own face is about to hit the ground from the entire weight of another person dropping you down.

    Just my opinion, but comes down to the individuals execution of it I suppose.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2013
  4. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    I'd tend to agree

    Duncan's doing this quite safely which is also a factor

    In my (randori) experience it's important to throw their hips beyond your head, which is easiest if you grip their rib area (well skin's best) and kick his groin forwards to prevent him sinking his hips back. If you do this and keep a hold of both sides you have plenty of time if they're still going
     
  5. mattt

    mattt Valued Member

    I dislike the technique for the reasons you state, but that doesn't mean the execution of the technique in the video is bad.
     
  6. Please reality

    Please reality Back to basics

    Come on, give the guy a break, he's doing his best!:D

    As everyone stated, if you do the technique correctly, there isn't much chance of getting nailed. On a couple of his examples, he did come a bit close to the other guy's head with his own, something that can be remedied by the way you jump in with both feet. It's not the easiest technique and there are a lot of henka for when it does go wrong. Kind of like sneaking out the backdoor. The key though is to have your face near his feet and base of balance, not in front of him as he falls. As was mentioned, where you grip and how you break his balance are keys.
     
  7. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Personally I like what Duncan's doing

    It is really good to see someone with a "name" in the buj working on his form and cycling through the stages of development rather than staying in his comfort zone
     
  8. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    The first picture shows the ending of the basic form - As mentioned I think, for obvious reasons, Duncan's allowing for a safer break fall rather than applying the full technique

    The basic form as I understand it is for the situation when his hands are low which also makes the breakfall/posting more difficult (also you can use your forearms here)

    The quality's not great, but it shows the foot positioning & the required shape of their body quite well I think


    The second picture shows how the foot positioning allows for a kick in the situation when they get thier hands down (& therefore has the potential to say move to the mount). In randori I've only really tried the second approach, but it works quite well IME
     

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  9. Big Will

    Big Will Ninpô Ikkan

    Here's a video with some good stuff (Hatsumi sensei, and Doron Navon doing an version of Koku) and unfortunately some bad stuff as well - but at least the bad stuff is shown by kyu-grades and not 15th dans...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb-Rem7H3Uw&list=FLqd-nVKlUJYaezCWUkT4Iug&index=1"]å¿è¡“ 武神館 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  10. Big Will

    Big Will Ninpô Ikkan

    And here's a gem posted by a spanish gentleman who trains under Ishizuka sensei. This is the 1991 TaiKai in Malaga, and there is a lot of work done on Koku:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqf-IeMzhso"]1991.TaiKai.Málaga.Part1.Uncut.by www.hannyadojo.com - YouTube[/ame]
     
  11. hatsie

    hatsie Active Member Supporter

  12. dra_uk

    dra_uk Lost in Translation

    If I'm not mistaken, there's a very interesting and young-looking face in that video...

    Actually, I was referring to the video that Will posted, but quoted the wrong video. He knew what I meant, however! ;)
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2013
  13. dra_uk

    dra_uk Lost in Translation

    I was actually referring to this video...
     
  14. hatsie

    hatsie Active Member Supporter

  15. bujingodai

    bujingodai Retired Supporter

    I'm probably wrong or focusing on the wrong person, but are you speaking of a younger Natasha Morgan?
     
  16. gtlaau

    gtlaau Valued Member

    Not sure if posted earlier in this thread or not.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAhQDz_-ZaM"]Hatsumi Bujinkan Daikomyosai 1993 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  17. dra_uk

    dra_uk Lost in Translation

    I'm referring to the first uke in the video - if I'm not mistaken, it's a very young-looking Kacem Zoughari.
     
  18. hatsie

    hatsie Active Member Supporter

    Really? I thought it was that weird French bloke who used to work in hatsumi sensei's office..... Kazoom somebody...:D
     
  19. gapjumper

    gapjumper Intentionally left blank

    I thought we were looking for something interesting!

    Like the little baby Jesus or something.

    But a Bujinkan student in a Bujinkan video...
     
  20. TomD

    TomD Valued Member

    Damn man, in BJK he is baby Jezus...

    Tom, masked profanity isn't allowed. please remind yourself of the ToS.
     
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