Tae Kwon Do any Good on the Street

Discussion in 'Tae Kwon Do Resources' started by Jackie Li, Feb 12, 2004.

  1. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Every street fight has rules - they are called "laws".

    Its whether you choose to live with the consequences of ignoring them that counts

    Undisciplined lasts about as long as a chocolate teapot against someone who is prepared...it is not a sensible long term strategy
     
  2. hteam5

    hteam5 New Member

    I am in no way advocating an undisciplined approach. I may have not stated clearly that all martial arts good or bad have there strengths and weakness. In saying this I must clarify that a street fighter with years of experience has been kicked, punched, thrown, bitten, stabbed, etc. So they are more likely to win against a 1 or 2 style so called fighting master. I Have seen it first hand. Life is not a movie. 1st hit usually wins in most fights. If you are defending yourself some one already broke the law.
     
  3. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I agree, but your response needs to be contained within legal parameters or you earn a Pyrrhic victory

    Most streetfighters (whatever that actually means) are aggressive and sneaky - they are not difficult to beat but you have to recognize the signs in the first place; this is the biggest gap between martial arts and self-protection

    I have rarely seen any streetfighter worth anything; but they specialise in "unfair" fights. This is not dirty tactics IN the fight per se, more a case of starting and ending the fight before their victim knows they are in it
     
  4. 47MartialMan

    47MartialMan Valued Member

    Agreed

    That said, I am at odds with the term "street fighter", as if these people have higher caliber of skills
     
  5. hteam5

    hteam5 New Member

    street fighters are often very skilled. Imagine if you had to fight everyday from a very early age. I knew a family where the mother was never home (no dad) The kids literally fought each other for the better food. These kids Knew what it was like to hit and be hit, they were ruthless when they wanted something. I am not speaking of the average street punk who goes out and starts a fight to prove he is bad ass. I am referring to the ones did it because they had to. Never assume that a street fighter has no skills. Never assume that a self taught fighter cannot be effective. They train similar mma guys. I am sure that in our controlled world of dojangs, and dojos a street fighter would not stand a chance. Enter their world and you may be very surprised. Consider it the art of survival.
     
  6. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    They are agressive and have no qualms about hurting someone - thats it. They are pack hunters and opportunists not fighters.

    The only "streetfighters" actually worth a lick are those who combine the above traits with a sprinkle of training. Even then - with a few exceptions- they typically lack focus to commit to anything for any length of time.
     
  7. hteam5

    hteam5 New Member

    I believe i read this right MA's most ultimate opponent is the layman, who plays by no rules, and is generally more unpredictable than we can ever know - Because we have been conditioned into the state of styles and set ways.- Bruce Lee
     
  8. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Which matches exactly what I said.

    Their techniques are not good, but their mentality makes them dangerous. Once you can get your head in their game they are terrible.

    Most rules do not address this of course, but that I their flaw not the streetfighters strength
     
  9. hteam5

    hteam5 New Member

    You are right. Street fighters are the scum of the earth. They are undisciplined and not worthy of the title fighter. They are pack hunters and opportunists not fighters. I know not of your life but assume that your wisdom is unmatched, your knowledge is complete, you have learned all that is true to your belief.
     
  10. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I have a qualification or two that means my opinion may have some veracity....
     
  11. Pretty In Pink

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  12. hteam5

    hteam5 New Member

    Sigh. You assume that a street fighter is just a low life skill less thug. My family was poor, but we were honest good hard working people. I would get into a fight almost everyday just going to school well into my late teens. I took a MA class or 2 whenever I could find a free trial. I practiced the few skills I was taught allot. I learned what did and did not work the hard way. I know that a large number of people who grew up in a hood like mine did the same. It was not done to start but rather to win a fight.
    20 years and a hand full of MA styles later I am proud to call myself a street fighter.

    Hannibal I am sure your skills and wisdom are far beyond mine. In fact probably most in this forum can make that claim, but I am not so ignorant as to assume that just because one is a street fighter they have poor skills, I always assume the other person can beat me until proven other wise. I maintain this mind set years after I moved away from all that violence. I hope I never have to fight dirty again. I still train like I will have to tomorrow though.

    chadderz I find that anyone who makes a claim like the one in the link you posted is a fool. I am not calling you a fool just the guy who is trying to use fear as a money maker
     
  13. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

  14. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

  15. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Highly Skilled Peeper Supporter

    Street Fighters are only dangerous if they also wear Tapout, Affliction, Badboy, or any other number of fanboy, poser clothing associated with MMA. The combination of immoral behavior and intentions while wearing such socially unacceptable clothing can only say one thing, that the wearer/practitioner cares little about their own life, and much less yours. Dangerous, in every sense of the word! :baby:
     
  16. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Tapout shirts give an excellent THAC0 bonus
     
  17. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Haha, it's cool man, I know, I was just posting it in a sarcastic manner and unfortunately they don't have a Sarcasm function on this website. :Aegis:
     
  18. 47MartialMan

    47MartialMan Valued Member

    I did not say "no skills", I said "higher caliber of skills"......
     
  19. 47MartialMan

    47MartialMan Valued Member

    I would think, the fact that you had taken some martial arts or training, presented you a better fighter than a "streetfighter"
     
  20. Dave76

    Dave76 Valued Member

    Perhaps the question to ask hteam5 is: what does "streetfighter" mean to you? That term in the town I grew up in meant "I took some boxing and now me and my friends enjoy fighting people for various random reasons"

    @Hannibal I noticed your invite was a year ago. Did anyone ever come to talk about it?
     

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