Staff Techniques

Discussion in 'Hapkido' started by Alexander, Nov 4, 2004.

  1. Alexander

    Alexander Possibly insane.


    I'm in the process of learning the Hapkido Staff and wondered if anyone knew of any good online resources for staff training. Doesn't have to be HKD, I'll take moves from anywhere.

  2. iron_ox

    iron_ox Jungki Kwan Midwest

    Hello all,

    What is "Hapkido Staff"?
  3. Alexander

    Alexander Possibly insane.

    Sorry I wasn't very specific,

    I've just started learning how to use a Bo (full length staff) in the Hapkido style, which seems to be far more elegant than what I have experianced in Karate styles. I was just wondering if there were any really good web pages for simple explanations of Hapkido moves with a Bo.
  4. iron_ox

    iron_ox Jungki Kwan Midwest

    Hello all,

    Sorry, I still don't understand, what is Bo (Jang Bong) with Hapkido style? Sorry to ask, but I have never heard of that as a traditional Hapkido weapon.
  5. Alexander

    Alexander Possibly insane.

    Iron Ox,
    Possible it is not a traditional Hapkido weapon. Hapkido is an art that I know virtually nothing about so it is quite possible that the Bo (Jang Bong in Korean?) is not a traditional weapon. It is taught at the club I attend though.

    Many thanks,
  6. iron_ox

    iron_ox Jungki Kwan Midwest

    Hello Alexander,

    Sorry, wasn't trying to come off sounding critical, just more curious what kind of things you are being taught...
  7. Alexander

    Alexander Possibly insane.

    You sounded nothing of the sot my friend!!!!

    Think Keanu in matrix reloaded and that's the sort of style that's being taught to me. Looks very :cool:
  8. d33pthought

    d33pthought New Member

    Thomas should know; he knows how to use a cane in a Hapkido context..maybe a staff isn't so far removed.
  9. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    Thanks for the vote of confidence... but I've only used a staff a couple of times in Hapkido classes... and then mainly just for "getting acquainted" with it. I have never realy seen the staff taught much at all in my experiences with Hapkido. And I am really only a novice with the cane (but I am trying... or so my partners say!).
  10. fester

    fester New Member

    lots of bong style's in our club, kook sa nim style and a bit of kook sul (we learned that one in korea so it would be a pitty to forget about it)
  11. d33pthought

    d33pthought New Member

    yes; you can make a bong out of anything these days
  12. mike-IHF

    mike-IHF Valued Member


    Actually in traditional Hapkiyusul witch is what I study. The 2 main weapons are the staff, and sword. Just as you will find in Aikijujutsu. Hope to shed some light on the subject.
  13. American HKD

    American HKD New Member


    The KHF and Master Ji Han Jae both have 6ft staff in the curriulum it's not used for joint locking as the Short stick or Cane.

    It's mainly a striking/thusting weapon like a spear and good against other traditional weapons like a sword however the principle cross over to today.

    I feel it's valuable to learn as a modern weapon because you can use a long stick, branch, broom, shovel, etc.

    BTW fancy twirling like the forms people and movies show is not how a staff is used in real life.
  14. kevinyusul

    kevinyusul New Member

    from black belt level we learn the BO ( six foot pole ), which is just a borrowed Karate weapon, the thing is that we learn how to strike, spin, do patterns and generally look like but what we do not get taught is how to do self defense with the BO, that is is someone else has the weapon how to defend and conduct self defense.

    Does any one apart form the basics learn self defense againt the bo and or learn how to do self defense using the BO fi someone grabs it.
  15. oni_sensei

    oni_sensei Valued Member

    At my school we were taught about the 7 basic weapons of Hapkido: knife, sword, long staff (jang bong), short stick (dan bong), cane, rope, and common objects. Many staff techniques work similar to those of kobudo and kungfu, and as far as I know, there aren't any forms/kata/patterns associated with weapons, let alone Hapkido at all.
  16. Alexander

    Alexander Possibly insane.

    I dug a little deeper into the Kwan I am studying HKD with. It called Duk Moo and is part of the Korea Hapkido Federation. I also found out that (allegedly) within the KHF the Duk Moo Kwan is consider the weapon specialists, hence learning the 6ft staff from the first lesson, and that probably also accounts for the presence of forms within the weapon systems.
  17. Thomas

    Thomas Combat Hapkido/Taekwondo

    Sounds really cool.. what else do you guys focus on?
  18. Alexander

    Alexander Possibly insane.

    Since I have not had a lot of experiance with other forms of Hapkido I can't draw very accurate comparisons, but I'll try to explain what I have seen of it:

    Weapons - So far I have only been instructed on the longstaff. However I know that the Katana, Nunchaku, two short sticks, cane and walking stick all are a part of it. There could well be even more weapons, but I don't know for a certainty.

    Breakfalls - A lot of emphasis is placed on these.

    Kicks - likewise. Although it is only kicking bat targets - I don't know if they use heavy bags.

    Punches/hand techniques - are rare at best. They are also very fancy.

    Sparring - is noticeable by it's absence. Occassionally I wonder if some of the senior grades are actually capable of applying what they know as I don't think they have been tested in this way. The Instructor also teaches Tae Kwon-Do though, so it could be that if his students want to spar then they go to one of those lessons.

    Forms - Weapons yes, unarmed no.

    Hope this helps,
  19. Kosh

    Kosh New Member

  20. Kosh

    Kosh New Member

    Our grand master was taught to use weapons by his...uncle i think. He was a very respected korean general and weapons specialist. GM Kim taught M Kim. How long have you been in DukMoo?

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