Sparring A Girl

Discussion in 'Boxing' started by paulbrec, Jan 9, 2012.

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  1. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Yay! A reason to carry on the thread a bit longer!

    Sooooo taking a stand against discrimination is now a bad thing because we "get on our high horses?" Interesting view there.

    MAP has rules against me posting details on my gentlemen's special interest literature (so does a court order and a couple UN resolutions) but that's a risky arguement to try and make. I'm not sure where the borderline would be on discussing this so all I'll say is the degree that stuff is sexist is massively up for debate.

    No he's not. He's a senior fighter from what I remember hence why he was put in there with the woman in the first place. And no, he's not here to understadn or he wouldn't of thrown a strop when he got called out for being a sexist and then said that it doesn't matter because he won't change. That's not looking for guidance, that's looking for people to pat you on the back and say attaboy.
  2. daggers

    daggers Valued Member

    girls selling themselfs for your private pc pleasure isnt sexist? just cos its in your own time and not broadcast on a forum like the boxer girl comment doesnt make it any less sexist..infact its worse.and i challenge any poster on this topic to say you aint guilty of that lol ;)
  3. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Why would it be? It's their choice to do it and there's plenty of material out there for women too if they want it
  4. daggers

    daggers Valued Member

    and yeay! ill carry it on, im not in the gang you see, my being here doesnt really matter to me so ill sit on the fence a while :)
  5. righty

    righty Valued Member

    Sadly, there isn't. :(

    But that's not really the topic at hand.
  6. Atre

    Atre Valued Member

    That's... not sexist.:bang:

    It might be possible to claim it's morally repugnant or that supporting some... exploitative areas of that industry with cash should be give anyone pause for thought.

    But it's not sexist, claiming that "I can watch it women shouldn't because it's unladylike" or similar discrimination would be.

    People should be more careful with terms like racist & sexist, they have serious, specific meaning and are not necessarily applicable whenever there is something you don't like involving women/black people.
  7. daggers

    daggers Valued Member

    Looool all the porn freaks are coming out now :- D
  8. CrowZer0

    CrowZer0 Assume formlessness.

    Sexism come in different forms, I had an English and a History teacher both hardcore feminists part of a group trying to ban fairy tales in schools because they were sexist. Something about patriarchal men protecting or saving the helpless damsel in distress. I agree they are quite sexist, but banning them from schools? A touch too far.
  9. masterPain

    masterPain Valued Member

    No, it's not sexist. These things, usually, involve men as well. Sometimes only men, for those who are into that. You can make any moral judgement you wish, but it does not discriminate on the basis of sex, as if one gender is objectified, then the other is as well. Everyone involved has made the decision to be involved. Even the most seemingly objectifying are safe, sane, and consensual. Sometimes the man is in the objectified role. Sometimes it's a tentacle monster.

    You're confusing attraction and desire with disrespect. Frankly, you are being more disrespectful to those women by judging them in this manner than those who enjoy watching them.
  10. Fu_Bag

    Fu_Bag Valued Member

    I've lurked this thread a bit because it kind of resembles a feeding frenzy, but there's a great equalizer in this tale: The Crazy ****ed Off No-Nonsense Ghetto Momma. Any doubts about a woman's ability to knock your block off can be easily balanced by the Crazy ****ed Off No-Nonsense Ghetto Momma. Try it and see! :)
  11. LilBunnyRabbit

    LilBunnyRabbit Old One

    So, wait, women should not be permitted to choose to work in an industry which you see as immoral? Does that mean they're also not allowed to be bankers, or injury lawyers, or accountants? Oh how noble and high-standing you must be. :bang:

    He's not new, and he's not after guidance. Being surprised by a woman being in a boxing gym would be one thing - suggesting she shouldn't be doing it, and that he disagrees with it, on the basis that he finds it unnattractive is another thing entirely and is quite clearly sexist.

    Even finding it unnattractive would be fine - I personally find unhealthy people unnattractive, as well as finding quiet, unnassuming types more attractive, but I'd never dream of suggesting that an entire gender should be forced to fit my standards.

    Why? Are you suggesting that she shouldn't expect to be treated with the same respect as other members in the gym?

    A different gym which doesn't practice and encourage sexist behaviour?

    Actually from the original post (if you bothered to read it) the mythical champion's thoughts would be 'I don't find him attractive, why should I spar him?'

    Not in the least. Nor is it sexist if men do the same. Assuming that all girls should, or that people who have not chosen to enter that industry should be seen the same way, is sexist. Appreciating those who have chosen to enter the industry is not.

    No it isn't, in the slightest. Go look up the definition of sexism and come back when you understand what you're attempting to talk about.
  12. Knight_Errant

    Knight_Errant Banned Banned

    No, what is sexist is the way that the industry objectifies women. And try as you might to try and say 'oh, but men do it as well', women are the targets of pornography in a way that men never are. What's more, the fact is that they are usually portrayed as victims in a way that men rarely are in pornography.
    I'm not saying you shouldn't watch pornography, or even that I don't. But you shouldn't kid yourself that the porn industry isn't basically sexist. I'm not even saying that you shouldn't watch pornography. The best thing to do IMHO is to use your power as a consumer to demand pornography that doesn't treat women as victims.
  13. LilBunnyRabbit

    LilBunnyRabbit Old One

    In reality, yes, there are strong aspects of sexism across the industry - however conceptually the idea itself is not sexist. You'll also find quite a few starlets-turned-producer who disagree strongly on your views about sexism in the field.
  14. Knight_Errant

    Knight_Errant Banned Banned

    Oh, I don't doubt that. One of the problems is that a lot of thinkers think of pornography as a monolithic block. To them, everything from Anais Nin to some of the viler sort of internet pornography is naughty rude pornography that has to be stopped.
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  15. ninjaboj

    ninjaboj Banned Banned

    We are not interested in hearing about your sexual fetishes, thank you. Please keep them to yourself.
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  16. LilBunnyRabbit

    LilBunnyRabbit Old One

    Well, it was nice knowing you ninjaboj.
  17. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Maybe its a ninja fetish?
  18. Knight_Errant

    Knight_Errant Banned Banned

    This whole thread is turning into a violent pornography where a young, male rightwing boxer is molested by women, communists and gays.
  19. ninjaboj

    ninjaboj Banned Banned

    Oh well. So much for having a sense of humour. Please note that I am married, and have been for three years now, which as anyone else who has experienced that same situation will probably realise this takes a certain amount of self sacrifice and commitment. Both to the opposite sex, and in defending oneself the same (as well). I don't think that I have said anything prejudice or otherwise blameworthy in this elan, so then hopefully I will be able to post it without censorship OK?
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  20. LilBunnyRabbit

    LilBunnyRabbit Old One

    Why is this in any way relevant either to the thread, or your previous comment? I'm confused.
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