So how many folks here 'steal' stuff?

What I mean is, how often do you look at other styles and incorporate stuff you like into your personal practice?

I have a background in taekwondo from when I was a child, and I currently mostly train Goju Ryu. My longest training stint was in the Bujinkan through my teens into early 20's. I still remember most of the fundamental focus our club had (Kihon Happo and Five Elements) and I occassionally sneak things like Boshiken into my practice work. I also rather like John Chung's Taekwondo DVD's from Panther Productions, and theres some finer points on kicking and kicking combos that, given the karate-taekwondo link, I can bring into my karate rather seamlessly.

Back when I was doing Judo, I attended seminars on Sambo with Vadim Kalganov, and some of the throw set ups and leg locks I remember to keep fresh in my personal practice.

I think one or two techniques here or there stick with me from this, but I dont think its possible to truly learn a style like this, just borrow elements and bring ideas in.

 

You'll hear a lot of people saying "I view a x technique through the lens of y martial art" and I roll my eyes a lot.

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I've only taken part in two martial arts so far (all hopes for a third were cancelled by coronavirus), so my perspective is limited. But I'd have to say I definitely built on top of Karate when I transitioned to boxing (which technically contains a lot less material) as opposed to replace it, because you can't unlearn Karate, you can only improve on it in the traditional Okinawan sense of the term, as far as I understand it. Boxing turned out to be a great place to practice many Karate concepts, even if the training was greatly different the mindset and raw materials were practically the same. You work on conditioning, footwork, agility, getting hit a lot, looking for openings during sparring, but above all remembering you are there to learn, not to "win" (another thing I learned from this guy.

 

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Had a JKD teacher steal a kick from Xingyiquan from me after I showed it to him....he stole by saying..."I'm going to steal that"

 

Also wouldn't it just be better to look at the technique through that style's lens, or just realize these are all human movements?

 

Not always. A specific example might be MMA (because of course) where you like what a thai kick does and how it works, but it has to be seen in the context of MMA because that's where I'd use it.

 

This might be splitting hairs, but if you haven't trained sufficiently in an art how can you view anything through its lens?

It might all be human movements, but the context in which you train does change your perspective on technique and how it is applied.

 

In KF "taou xi" is a serious no-no.

Is just is.

 

I did tkd for 3 years and wushu for 2. I still do the leg swings/flowery crescent kicks for conditioning and flexibility. Idk if that’s related to the question

 

You're bringing stuff you've practiced outside of your main style into your personal training, so that counts.

 

see I like HEMA as it is, but I dont have much hands on with it other than some sabre, great sword and axe work. I like to read old manuals on it though.

 

People should stop getting hung up on the thought of a technique being stolen from another martial art.

Let go of the ego. That's not what martial arts is about.

At the end of the day if it's effective, then use it.

 

Honesty I don't look at any of it as stealing. I trained a lot of Xingyiquan, my first brief encounter with JKD showed me things that apply directly to Xingyiquan, just the stance it different. Things that you read about from old Chinese guys, but you never see today It also gave me my own idea f what Bruce Lee's "Classical Mess" meant. Of course my inclusion ot these "JKD" training ideas in XIngyiquan did not go over well with the few Xingyiquan folks I knew, and I am pretty sure got me thrown off the christmas party invitation list, but the inclusion was not so mcu something new, just something forgotten.

There are only so many ways to kick, punch, lock, through or wrestle someone..... if you learn it, even from another style, if it works for you, it is yours, there is not copyright on it

 

I too don’t consider it stealing, and I reckon everyone who’s studied more than one style will have a some degree of stealing.

What I find harder is the “Xue Sheng Chrismas list problem”: techniques from previous training that aren’t the way it’s done in your current club.

 

that's why I put the ' ' around it. And oh god tell me about it. I've met too many people who do this. One of the seniors at karate could never get out of his head that in Goju Ryu we dont often kick as high or do as many multi-kick combinations.