well you'll have to excuse me if I don't believe claims that are made without any evidence to support. You haven't managed to convince me about Silat's effectiveness as a weapons or unarmed art, one way or the other. Why are you arguing against that position in this thread? No one in this thread is arguing that position. Look. You want to talk trash about the UFC and MMA, go right ahead. Just don't pretend you aren't. You don't like the attitude of UFC fighters and fans, and MMA practitioners, fine. Come out and say it, but don't pretend to hide behind this "I'm a civil gentlemen" crap when you are on a forum trash talking MMA practitioners and UFC fans and fighters. I have strong opinions too and I'm not afraid of voicing them. I'm also not afraid of what people think of me. Ok I'll bite on your little jab. What is "The Martial Spirit?"