Hi Jawara, No offence taken my friend! I totally understand where you are coming from, and can empathise with why you would say that, but I just wanted to present the other side also. It seems i was rather flipant with my dry reply, so my apologies for that. The silat community is already a big mess, and we certainly don't need more aggro on the web! Looking forward to your contributions here, and good to make your aquaintance.