shin splints...

Discussion in 'Injuries and Prevention' started by joejitsu, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    Also, unless you have a debilitating injury requiring prolonged treatment, asking for physio on the NHS for a sports injury is, for me personally, a dick move.
  2. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    I think one of the things that attracts me to POSE is the drillwork you have to do in order to learn it. You can't learn to do it properly without laying that groundwork.
  3. Frodocious

    Frodocious She who MUST be obeyed! Moderator Supporter

    Having had physio on the NHS for sports injuries I disagree! That being said, when money is not a problem I would always prefer to go private.
  4. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    I'm not saying people should suffer serious injuries and refuse treatment, but with things like shin splints, or a sprained ankle, I think that you should either self-treat or pay up the money for private treatment. I don't like the idea of car crash victims having to sit on an NHS Physio's waiting list because some weekend warrior got a boo boo.

    If you're not willing (but able) to pay £25-£40 for a physio session, you're not in enough pain to clog up the overstretched NHS physio system.
  5. Frodocious

    Frodocious She who MUST be obeyed! Moderator Supporter

    I partially agree with you, but I think if money is tight, you've done all the self treatment you can and you still have pain then you should be entitled to go to an NHS physio.
  6. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    Sure, if you cant afford private physio care (and I mean cant, not 'I don't want to pay for it'), then absolutely. That's what the NHS is for, but it really (really) irks me when some jackass spends 3 months in NHS rehab for a sports injury that would have resolved itself given rest.

    They're below even those rectum-dwellers who show up at A&E with a stomach ache.
  7. Frodocious

    Frodocious She who MUST be obeyed! Moderator Supporter

    Unfortunately that's one of the problems with a 'free at the point of service' system, people will abuse it for the most ridiculous reasons. It's the same as people going to the GP with a cold or the flu and wanting antibiotics or people who refuse to eat healthily and lose weight wanting gastric band surgery (and numerous other conditions that could be solved if the person suffering from them took some responsibility for their lives instead of expecting others to sort all their problems out for them!). Rant Over!
  8. boards

    boards Its all in the reflexes!

    Agreed. In Australia it's extremely common to be barefoot or in thongs (the footwear,get your minds out of the gutter)and shoes are usually taken off in the house. From reading comments online that seems fairly unusual in America, anyone want to weigh in on that? So if you want to start barefoot get used to just walking barefoot to strengthen and toughen the feet before even starting to run is my opinion.
  9. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    Yes agreed. I'd even go so far as to say most people going into it would benefit massively from bringing in a coach/pt who deals specifically with this type of running. A good running coach can be worth his/her weight in gold in being able to look at your form and technique objectively. People often run with hardwired errors built into their gait and posture. These can be corrected but it's pretty hard to auto-correct. Someone who provide you objective feedback and provide cues for the footwork when running of this type are a very valuable tool to have at hand. They also work out to be much cheaper in the long run that paying a physio for rehab and all the resultant time off from training.

    It's not a must... but it sure is a something really nice to have if you can adjust budgets for a block of sessions with someone who understands the finer points of this type of running.

    I did much the same for my open water swimming a while back and the change was massive... not only in being able to improve times in the open waters swims... but also in just being able to relax and swim more efficiently... a proper running coach does exactly the same.
  10. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    Yes this will defo be more on the Aussie/Kiwi tip of things. This is also influenced by the Aboriginal culture and the Maori's - growing up having to do your rugby drills as a nipper down in NZ with bear feet on frosty mornings toughens you up. One common theme among many of the big knuckleheads that I train with at a gym here is that all the little cocconuts grew up playing rugby and inevitably it all started out barefoot early morning drills on a frosty pitch. :p

    Where I'm from in So. Cal it's popular to be barefoot... but nearly as much so in other parts of the US or in the US as a whole compared to the Aussies or the Kiwis.
  11. Frodocious

    Frodocious She who MUST be obeyed! Moderator Supporter

    Agreed! Having just given myself a knee injury that turns out to be related to postural/gait issues caused by weak obliques on the opposite side, due to my shoulder injury, I would have saved myself a lot of pain, time off/modified training and associated annoyance if I'd had some coaching/gait analysis done before increasing my running.
  12. slapjitsu

    slapjitsu Banned Banned

    I used to get them years ago and pain in the top of my foot , it was all caused by pronation acording to my surly PTI. he recomended superfeet insoles, the do boot and trainer ones and have been using them for over 10 years (not the same set) and havent had problems with that since.
    They are a slightly cheeper version of a fitted orthapedic insole. orthoptic i think they call it. but do a simler job of getting your foot in the natural position so it cushions itself.
  13. joejitsu

    joejitsu Valued Member

    Need some speedy advice!

    I've seen a doctor and its not shin splints (yes yes I jumped the gun a bit), hes not sure what it is and wants to refer me to someone else which is tomorrow.

    My predicament is that I have a chance to grade on Sunday and need to train tonight if I want to get some training in before then.

    Do I train tonight and just take it easy? Or should I miss this grading? Might be a definite don't train answer from some people, but bare in mind I really want to pass on sunday
  14. Simon

    Simon Moved on Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Don't train. If you want to take the grading only you know how much pain you are in and if you can get through it without further risk of injury.
    If you are not ready for the grading then one more night's training is not going to help.
  15. joejitsu

    joejitsu Valued Member

    I'm ready to grade, just want to go through it once more before testing.

    You're right, not going to train tonight, and going to.hold off till march for grading. I'm keen to do it but having thought more about it, another month to wait is nothing compared to a lifetime of problems! Thanks for a quick response, guess I just needed someone to point out the obvious before I got carried away and injured.
  16. Axelator

    Axelator Not called Alex.

    Did you ask the dr why it's not shin splints? I wouldnt take his word for it.
  17. Pkhamidar2com

    Pkhamidar2com Panda Member

    I also walk barefeet as much as i can. Just feels more comfortable. Shoes are not allowed in the house.

    Also in the summer i like to walk around in the garden barefoot, ground is nice and warm :)
  18. righty

    righty Valued Member

    I wouldn't be too worried about that. The doctor was unable to confidently diagnose and so got a specialist involved.

    Even if the specialist diagnoses shin splints it's still a favourable situation. Well disregarding the fact his legs still hurt.
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  19. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    My eyes just rolled so far back into my head, I think I pulled a muscle.

    So what you're saying is, if the trained medical specialist's diagnosis doesn't match your untrained internet warrior diagnosis, you should disregard said specialists advice?

  20. Axelator

    Axelator Not called Alex.

    Your attitude really ****es me off, I'm trying to help people and all you do is chime in with useless childish remarks which I know you wouldnt say to me if I was talking to you face to face. I know you didnt like my views on Scottish independence but I have a lot of knowledge on shin splints as I have suffered from them for a long time. I have them now even, but I have them under control. So if you could put your personal dislike for me aside for a moment like an adult maybe we can help this guy?

    The reason I said that is because if you've read my previous posts in this subject you would know my GP didnt diagnose my shin splints. I didn't say his GP was wrong I asked why he thought it wasn't shin splints. Shin splints is a generic term for lower leg pain, it's not even a real diagnosis, it's like saying I have a headache, the actual problem causing the headache could be many things and the treatment varies depending on what it is. It could be stress fractures, medial tibial stress syndrome ect. We dont even know if this guy has anterior and interior shin splints, he hasnt told us.

    Maybe if you actually trained instead of playing around on the internet you might not pull muscles so easily?
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2012

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