Selective Thread Closing?

Discussion in 'Suggestions, Problems and Tests' started by TigerGrishkin, Jan 29, 2004.

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  1. Andy Murray

    Andy Murray Sadly passed away. Rest In Peace.

    Sad you feel that way, but I wish you all the best.

    No doubt Bullshido will welcome you with open arms.

    I must say, I find it odd, that the Bullshido crew decided to air it's views on this thread specifically.

    I could have split it onto a seperate thread, but I kind of expected this direction.
     
  2. KiWarrior

    KiWarrior Banned Banned

    I've been told by individuals in moderating roles with this board that I am being argumentative and essentially was called a know-it-all "kid". My disagreement was being discouraged since "people here had been doing martial arts since before I was born". That is a silly stand point to take as opposed to actually adressing questions and points.

    These comments were made despite the fact that all I've done is tried and make rationale points. Points only a couple people adressed with anything besides "ad homenium" attacks and comments.

    As for censorship the use of *******ization was/is censored despite being a completely valid word and completely valid for word choice at the time (software censorship, but censorship nonetheless). Small point but irritating to me nonetheless. I'm sure there are more blatant examples somewhere, heck I've been here only a week.

    As for "Every single one of them ws explainable by breach of forum rules" I'd be curious as to how many people who are banned for these rules weren't epicenters of dissent. I'd be surprised if there weren't some selective application of power, the thread mentioned in the start of this thread showed exactly such an application.
     
  3. Andy Murray

    Andy Murray Sadly passed away. Rest In Peace.

    So what you doing here KiWarrior, if your opinion of the forum is so low?

    Nice double act with you and TG.

    We've seen it all before thanks.
     
  4. Jim

    Jim New Member

    I can't quite understand the arguments between this other forum and 'us'. As far as I 'get it', the other forum are against - what we here call - McDojo's and so are we. Why is there a problem between us?

    Please explain.
     
  5. Rice Krispies

    Rice Krispies Valued Member

    Moderation styles. And idiot members.
     
  6. Rice Krispies

    Rice Krispies Valued Member

    Why exactly theyre bothering, I dont know.
     
  7. KickChick

    KickChick Valued Member

    All I know is that I look much better in my ARMY t-shirt than Phrost ... could that be it ;)
     
  8. Jim

    Jim New Member

    Hey now look... You brought up the Tshirt thing this time. Not me! Remember that. I want that on the record!

    Moderation styles? Sorry for my ignorance (I haven't spent any time at the other place) but what exactly is the difference? Allowance of profanity? Or something more substancial?
     
  9. marais

    marais New Member

    too seriuos

    i can only imagine the expretions on your faces as you are all battling it out "mods vs other"
    i will take this thread up in the trusted words of my coward father
    "if some1 confronts you ,run away"
    so here is a little something to put a smile on your dial and give you guys a break from this seriuos stuff.:D
    but in my opinion"your all bluddy nut jobs and that is why i love it here".keep it up guys.
    im just glad being a mod is..........
     
  10. booksie_girl

    booksie_girl Lucy the Terrible

    In the time I have been here, I have had one post deleted, and I knew why it happened, I hadn't expected it to be deleted, but I could see the moderator's point of view.

    I have expressed my opinion, and never had a problem with doing so. I have also seen the effects of Yoda spending a long night cleaning up after a now banned member spent a drunken night posting inarticulate garbage, large amounts of swearing and several porn links, certainly not the way he wanted to spend his time I'm sure. But someone needed to do it, to keep the board suitable for all ages, and I'm glad that we have such dedicated moderators. Despite what was posted, this member was given a second chance, which he also blew. The point remains that despite the completely irresponsible way in which he acted, he was still given another chance. The Mods are hardly condeming and unforgiving.

    Go ahead and flame me, but like I said, I've never had a problem airing my opinion, unless some member causes problems.
     
  11. Trent Tiemeyer

    Trent Tiemeyer Valued Member

    I'd love to sit here and let this thread reach mythic proportions, but I got's to throw in my two bits first.

    Firstly, I have been a Bullshido member as long as I have been a MAP member. Yet, I have racked up 700 and some odd posts here, and an astonishing two on Bullshido.

    I read Bullshido every day, but due to my astonishing cockiness in my abilities and experience, I don't need to try to break down everyone else's art and elevate my own.

    Sure, there is a good amount of BS in the martial arts, that can all be sorted out in the ring or on the street.

    I am a large, athletic, (relatively) young male. Everyone in the martial arts does not meet or NEED to meet these criteria. It isn't all about fighting. It is for me, but who the hell am I to tell everyone else why they should study one art and abandon another?

    MAP has a broader spectrum of Martial Artists than Bullshido. If you want to argue the merits of Muay Thai, JiuJitsu, or Vale Tudo we have forums for that expressed purpose. If you want to study Ninjutsu, TKD, Kung Fu, or any other art you can dream up, DO IT. Then discuss it here, and delight in the fact that you will be respected instead of flamed.

    We are all brothers (and sisters) in the martial arts, most if not all of our knowledge is obsolete, and we persevere because WE LOVE IT.

    When y'all cement a date for the Midwest McThrowdown, let me know.
     
  12. CKava

    CKava Just one more thing... Supporter

    Well said 1Onefighting :D
     
  13. Tosh

    Tosh Renegade of Funk

    I fail to see your point. I've already discussed with you how some people take too much stock in someones answer when they see the "Moderator" title? so they disagreed? Are you not still arguing your point, or are you content just to moan about the mods not being independent? Just because a Mod disagrees with you does not mean.

    a) They are looking to ban you
    b) Their opinion is correct.


    Yet funnily enough, I'm still able to tell what you have written even though (SHOCK HORROR) some stars have been put in. You are honestly arguing that your message has been altered due to a few stars?? Heck the Osbournes have a whole *bleeping* show, based around this fact. Call the cops it's 1984! ;)


    So would I, are you suggesting that epicenters of decent often (granted after arguing till they are blue in the face) have to resort to personal attacks or swearing?

    On to Tigers thread, did he even re-read what was said to him? IT WAS HIS POSTING STYLE THAT WAS ATTACKED NOT HIS OPINION.

    Yoda planted the seed of him to start a new thread about the history but did he do it ? No, instead he preferred to rant on about how he was attacked. The mods were trying to keep a thread on topic, if he had an axe to grind about percieved TKD history why didn't he do it? The original thread was about "Comments putting down TKD", someone raised history, someone disagreeed. From my point of view that's got the basis of a new, potentially more interesting thread. Instead he took comments on his conversational stlye the wrong way and "spat the dummy" - big deal! Maybe you see it differently, but I'd like to see where you see the Mods "attacked" him?

    Granted the inclusion of marias's entry was strange, any of the Mods want to comment on who or why this was done? Personally, I thought it was to allow marais to respond and perhaps get Tiger to start a new thread, hell I agree with Tiger, yet he didn't give anyone a chance to as he commented and the thread was locked in the space of a day and a half! Sorry dude you need to give things a week in TKD land before you get some sensible comments around here, but then hey I've been here for over a year, I know that!
     
  14. Andy Murray

    Andy Murray Sadly passed away. Rest In Peace.

    We'd need to put our heads together to work that one out.
    There were quite a few mods online at that time, and everyone was thinking the same thing with a different solution in mind.

    I suspect 'marais' post piggy backed a mods comment, as the thread had been locked already by me. I didn't intend for it to be a long term lock, just long enough for everyone to put their teeth back in. I think I misread Yoda's post to mean he was splitting the thread into a new one, so I left it locked. Weird, but scarcely a reason for such a stramash.

    Further, anyone who doesn't like the way we do things here, is welcome to ask questions.
    They may find there are answers they haven't considered.
    They are also welcome to simply go find a forum that suits them better.

    Isn't it funny how someone always knows better?
     
  15. Kwajman

    Kwajman Penguin in paradise....

    Uhmmmm, KC, just where would that pic be by the way? :)

    I like a good argument, phrost, omega, and all, w/o profanity tho. Burns my little innocent ears ya know..... (my sons actually)
     
  16. Andy Murray

    Andy Murray Sadly passed away. Rest In Peace.

    KC's busy.
    Apparently she was last seen getting behind the wheel of a truck loaded with Carbolic soap, wearing a determined expression on her face.

    An observer swears blind, she was mumbling "potty mouths"
     
  17. Kwajman

    Kwajman Penguin in paradise....

    Wasn't there a brass statue on the back of that truck???????
     
  18. Ad McG

    Ad McG Troll-killer Supporter

    Worst, most pointless thread ever.

    You don't like the forums? Don't post here! You might even be able to make use of the time you will save having a real life and not arguing about completely pointless rubbish on the internet.

    Bye bye
     
  19. Kwajman

    Kwajman Penguin in paradise....

    Adam, yours may be one of the few sane posts here yet...There are trolls who just want to cause trouble. Instead of trying to make things better out of the public eye, they just happily post away.
     
  20. snake_vs_crane

    snake_vs_crane Valued Member

    "You don't like the forums? Don't post here! You might even be able to make use of the time you will save having a real life and not arguing about completely pointless rubbish on the internet."

    i must disagree, the majority of this thread has been logical discussion, isnt the best thing for all involved if this train of thought is argued to its conclusion in hope that a mutual understanding can be reached?

    As andy murray has stated the core ethic of MAP has always been that it should be a place where everyone can come and discuss any MA, but in a civilised, informed and intelligent manner, that is what most people here are trying to do, and frankly i think that if people find this thread painful then it is you who should avoid it, the intention here is in no way negative and hence i see no reason why this discussion a. is not valid and b. should not be facilitated.

    However, i will not argue this point alone as it takes a spectrum of views on both sides of the disciussion to produce results, Im not sure what other bullshido members will do but if you ever want to logically discuss this point i advise you to come over to the forums, you may even be surprised at how civil things are kept.
     
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