Savate

Discussion in 'Other Styles' started by Freeform, Sep 19, 2002.

  1. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    Any savate practioners out their? I'm interested in the comparison between the french style kicking and the Karate style kicking.

    A few years aago I read a book entitled 'The Fighting Arts, Choosing the Way' by Mick Papas and various other authors, and it draws reference to another book (the name of which I forget) written in the 1920's which compared the two schools of kicking and determined that the French style was much more 'sophisticated'.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanx
     
  2. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    No takers out there?

    I now that a couple of years ago a Savate School opened in central London, and is alledgedly the only one in Britain. Anyone seen or visited it?

    Thanx
     
  3. waya

    waya Valued Member

    I've heard of it lol (tons of help today aren't I? :) ) LOL

    I'd like to see some Savate practitioners also and learn something about it.

    Rob
     
  4. Jim

    Jim New Member

    I visited a club that called itself Tae Kwon Do a few years ago but it turned out to be Savate. The instructor (a frenchman) thought that if he called it Savate then no one would know what he was doing and wouldn't come.

    I don't know much about it though, but he did have a few books on the subject and one was probably the one you were looking for. I lost contact with him though, sorry.
     
  5. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

  6. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    Cheers Yoda, quiet informative.

    Colin
     
  7. morphus

    morphus Doobrey

    LOVE THE SAVATE SITE, HEARD ABOUT THE ART, BUT DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE HISTORY.

    REALLY GOOD!
    :D
     
  8. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

    Another "net buddy", Armando Basulto, has a site you may like too......

    http://www.wayofnoway.com/savate.html

    He has a yahoo group dedicated to Savate - some very good stuff there.

    Tell him Yoda sent ya :)
     
  9. Cain

    Cain New Member

    Hey FF check out this book it has good coverage on savate - Secret fighting arts of the world

    I don't remember the author thogh :(

    |Cain|
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2002
  10. SeekingTheWay

    SeekingTheWay New Member

    I've been training in Savate in Glasgow for the best part of a year now.

    Just recently gained my Blue Glove grading via Salem Assli who came over from the California Association of Boxe Francaise-Savate to assess us.

    I also train in JKD and Muay Thai but particularly enjoy Savate.

    R
     
  11. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    Care to give us a little insight to Savate, techniques, grading anything like that.

    And welcome to the forum as well.

    Colin
     
  12. Cain

    Cain New Member

    Hmm...if I m rite savate focuses heavily on low kicks n they r more like swings rather than snaps......that is all I know about the style.....hmm......I m waiting for seekingtheway's answer.....

    |Cain|
     
  13. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter


    I think you'll find that you couldn't be further from the truth.
     
  14. Cain

    Cain New Member

    Ahh!!!! Enlightment from the master :D

    |Darth Vader| :D :D
     
  15. SeekingTheWay

    SeekingTheWay New Member

    Since I've only been doing the art a short while i'll try my best to explain what I know.

    The art dates back approx 400 years to French sailors on their voyages to far East. More known in the USA in the 1800's from French and Basque settlers. It is in the 1870s that coloured gradings were introduced and probably round about then that it was more widely known.

    It can be described as foot fencing, punches are used- mainly jabs and crosses although uppercuts, hooks do come into effect.

    Kicks are at all levels low, medium and high using mainly the toe in a "whipping" fashion and the instep.

    Kicks include - fouette (to whip) a kick to outside of the knee, rib area or head, chasse lattrel-rear side kick, coupe de bas - kick to shin similar to JKD duntek, chasse bas- front lead kick, spinning heel hook kick at all heights.

    A lot of flexibility comes into play, when seen the arts kicks can look somewhat "ballet"like only with speed.

    Some grappling can be used to counter kicks. as well as usual parrying with gloves and shin blocks or evasion.

    Grades start from blue glove to green, red, yellow, black and onto silver.

    As I learn more Ill keep posted, there are sites I have from Paris and California which Ill look out and post up.

    Any questions i'll try to answer if not I'll find them for yous.

    R
     
  16. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    Cheers mate :D

    I wonder why Savate, from what I've seen a very effective art, has become a 'mainstream' art with all these sailors travelling over the world. Did they guard the 'secrets' of their training?

    Colin
     
  17. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

    You mean hasn't become a mainstream art?
     
  18. slc

    slc Banned Banned

    The only additional stuff I know about Savate (I went to one lesson! :).

    Savate was practiced my sailors and originally was almost all kicking. If I remember correctly you have (or had) your hand on the floor for a lot of the kicks (because of the problems with balance on the boats).

    When the French sailors came to England they faught with the English Pugilists (early Boxers) and got beaten very regularly so they adapted some of the Pugilist style into Savate, thus Savate now has a more similar style to kick boxing. But VERY different from Muay Thai.

    Simon
     
  19. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    Yeah, I meant hasn't.
     
  20. Sonshu

    Sonshu Buzz me on facebook

    Lots of the Savate stuff here is good

    I would love to do the styles and know that world class Savate fighters are effective in the ring.

    There is little grappling in it and I find the Kicking from the one Savate person I trained with at a seminar he was awsome, accurate, fast and kicked like a strong thai fighter.

    It is a good art with sweeps and all. Its more like kickboxing I guess but its very good. Gerard Gordeau was an excellent example - if anyone has UFC 1 (this first one) they will know what I mean.

    He kicked some serious butt and only lost in the final to Gracie - I have to say if he was not so cautious and belted Royce I think he would have been in trouble!

    SONSHU
     

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