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To be honest I thought martial arts people would understand where I'm coming from.
Much like the STEM industries, martial arts can be a field that is not overly welcoming to women, can put women off before they've even started, makes them quit sooner than average, doesn't seek to accomodate them very well, can be a bit "boys locker room", seems outwardly very "male", etc etc.
And much like STEM is more than likely missing out of some great exponents in the field because it's not welcoming to as many people as possible.

 

I undertsnad teh point you make mate, but I also think this is a guy who is a bit of a sci-fi/comic geek being called out on something that he probably does as a matter of course (i.e. wear a horrible shirt)....I suspetc he was trying to look relatively "cool" and it backfired

 

culturally the wonder women symbol is very different because of her backstory. she is one of the few female superheroes in a multitude of universes filled with male superheroes. much like a female scientist.

that combined with hollywood's reluctance to make a wonder woman film, him wearing a wonder woman shirt would have been a very positive message to young girls.

 

Oh yeah...that's pretty much what happened.
He wanted to look edgy and cool but made a hash of it. Unlucky for him he chose the worst possible forum and time to do it and "internetz gonna internet".
I think this guy is just simply a bit clueless rather than overtly sexist.
The main problem I have with the situation is that none of his supervisors stepped in (or felt they could or even should step in) and make him take it off (seeing as he had a perfectly servicable polo shirt underneath).

 

this argument is bullcrap though, its the weird stereotype pushed by mainstream media about academics, gamers and geeks that only resonates with old people. being into sci fi and comics is the coolest thing now.

 

Go to your average comic-con or shop in town and there and hundreds if not THOUSANDS of people like this. We might not like them being representative of us, but they are a highly visible subset of geek culture

 

Most women are put off by my classes because there is a high chance they will get punched in the face and hit with a stick..........most men are put off for the same reasons

 

amazing thing is that this subset usually arent the folks in academia. ive said it a few times, folks in academia are quite well rounded otherwise they dont make it far in academia because of the broad skillset needed and the 100's of students who have those skillsets. he wouldnt have been put in front of the press unless he was able to talk to them, but he chose a crappy shirt.

excusing him because he might be a stereotype of geek is a strange response because those stereotypes aren't as true as we're made to believe.

also comic-con has changed hannibal, fantasy and cosplay is cool since cinema has picked up on it.

 

I just threw out a handful of reasons. I'm sure there are all sorts of reasons (some probably bogus..false bricks in my analogy). Didn't really attempt to rank them. But I think we can agree that women aren't as represented in martial arts as perhaps they should or could be?

See what we're doing though? Talking about it! It's good innit? Dialogue and all that. It's not something we just think women need to put up. We can explore the issue. And that's all that really happened with Matt Taylor (it just happened on a large scale).

 

This year I intend to dress as a Ragnar Lothbrock

 

go as floki or go home!

off topic - i went to the viking museum in york and the staff were telling me they met an icelandic guy called "floki flokison flokison" ad infinitum (floki son of floki son of floki etc)

 

Agreed. Some people pointed out his shirt wasn't ideal in the circumstances and could be seen as unwelcoming to women and some other people told them to shut and stop spoiling his special day.

 

extremes in every spectrum.
glad we all stand in the middle although slightly away from each other.

 

That's because no women are involved and we're rational men.



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There are reasons women don't do martial arts that are very unreasonable (excuse the pun ), and they boil down to:
1) "Martial arts are a boys' thing, I'm a girl so I don't like them"
2) "But they're all boys in that gym! I'm not going there."
If a woman thinks like that it isn't a community's fault, more like said woman having problems socialising with males.

However, in some (most, in my experience) gyms you find definitely sexist attitudes i.e. being given the silent treatment, boys refusing to spar with a girl, not being allowed to train like the boys etc.
So yeah, in many cases it's true.