Yes I would think that most people do not join a MA for a history lesson. But once there they fall for most any stuff that is told them regarding history. I mean after all it makes sense, they are paying for MA instruction, so if the instructor tells them what they are doing is 2,000 years old, most people will buy it & most of them will not care to much more about it.
I think that at least in the case of KMAs & the Koreans that took it to the West, this is really true for the most part & for many! Korea was a poor, worn torn country that suffered from a brutal occupation that was designed to rip away their identity as a people. The few Korean males that were allowed to move abroad obviously looked to settle in a country that would afford them better economic opportunity. So they picked places like Germany. This coincided (late 1960s-70s) with the Eastern MAs craze that was hitting the West as the latest fad. So some opened MA schools as they had some experience with kicking & punching, they fit the part & sold what the West wanted. This craze was fueled in part by the Bruce Lee & Kung Fu movies. But it was the Billy Jack series of movies & the Kung Fu TV series that gave the MAs that Eastern mystique, that was especially attractive to many in the West. In the 1980s the Karate Kid movies did the same for kids, opening the doors to them wider & wider!
you may have missed it but that was actually a link to a thread. bruce made a number of DERPs in that thread
Really? Do you mean activily still training in hapkido, or used to train hapkido when they were a kid - like chan sung jung!
I dont like most "MMA gyms" many of them are ran by people who have just had some amatuer and pro fights (I'm not talking top level organisations here either) and like has been said trained in it for 5 years or so and then decide to teach it. They arn't great boxers, or great grapplers, or great thai boxers, or great anything. They know a bit about each, they've comprimised on all areas and in my eyes arn't going to be the best teachers. The better places will have a BJJ instructor who is a BB and been all over the tournaments and won, A thai boxing instructor who has only done that for many years and been to the top, A boxing instructor who has been coaching for years and had a good pro career himself etc - Not some guy who has learnt bits of it himself and decided to have a go at teaching it. I'd still rather go to set places to learn myself though, a BJJ club to learn that, a boxing club to learn that and so on. Anyway, the original question, it's like asking why doesnt boxing have grappling? Because it doesn't.
You may not look at this from the "integration" point of view. Who is going to help you to do the integration work? If you have to figure the integration work all by yourself, why do you need a teacher for?
At the intergration mma classes. Its no good trying to hip escape from a GnP attack if you cant hip escape to begin with.
wow. the MMA gyms in my area are surprisingly run by progressive TKD guys with some experience in hapkido that want to expand their base. As such they've hired some top notch BJJ and Muay Thai coaches.
This guy had used his - roundhouse kick to set up his side kick, - side kick to set up his punches, - punches to set up his double underhooks, - double underhooks to set up his knee strike, - knee strike to set up his outer hook, and - outer hook to take down his opponent. You just can't learn this kind of integration by yourself. Who can help you on that? Only the teacher who has kick, punch, lock, throw, ground game training experience. Just a boxing coach will not be able to help you on this and that's for sure. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_krfr2l-TCU"]Sanshou 6 - YouTube[/ame]
Plenty of fighters trying to cash in, granted they arn't the most successful places around but they are still becoming more and more frequent.
Actually why boxing doesn't have grappling is a really interesting question. And it's not just "because it doesn't". It takes in whole history of boxing right from the bareknuckle pugilism days when all manner of things were allowed, trained for and included in what became "boxing". "Cross buttocks" and "Flying mare" would have been almost as familiar as "cross" and "jab" are today.
Who would that be then? Is KS recognisable in his/her movement? Such as Machida's karate is shown in his.
Wrist locks are fine, unless KSW is only indentifiable by finger and toe locks you should be able to see the dustancing and gross body mechanics used in KSW.
I'm not sure most folks can differentiate between KS, Hapkido and Aikido when these arts are translated into the MMA setting. On top of that, I am not so sure many people pay close attention to the clinch game during the match aside from establishing underhooks. Machida's style is probably more influenced by his unorthodox elusivity than any identifiable Karate style. Still, the KS display is no where near as prominent as Bendo's TKD, Ronda's Judo or JDS' boxing.
