...and side-steps, bob and weave, circuit training, bag work, floor to ceiling ball, timing, pad work, sweeping up the dojo, winding hand-wraps, shin conditioning, ball and chain dragging, pointless, endless, debating about a subject we clearly understand each other on, but for some reason just continue on and on and on debating the pointlessness of the fact that if either/any of us have actually trained in Muay Thai that we all know exactly what's been spoken of - and someone is just being awkward. Now what about that Muay Boran? Muay Thai is just a sport, for crying out loud!
It is - it's deeply flawed with regards to street self-defense because you entrain a habitual acceptance of co-operative timing. If you really believe what you've been saying, you should really seek out a decent Muay Boran master - otherwise - whereas you can probably fight now (being a beginner and all) ... in 2-3 years time it's likely you won't be able to fight your way out of a paper bag
And you're seriously setting up your average karateka or Shaolin monk as a better alternative than MT for self defence? Pure fantasy.
Everybody on MAP knows it goes: 1. MMA 2. BJJ 3. JKD 4. Muay Thai 5. Boxing 6. ....etc. etc. 238. Wing Chun Within that context: full-contact is mandatory, religion is absurd and chi doesn't exist.
It's a generic term for traditional Thai systems and the chances of anyone actually having trained in it are slim to none because it effectively morphed into Muay Thai. Then Tony Jaa made a cheapo martial art flick and suddenly everyone comes crawling out of the woodwork claiming they do Muay Boran and it is "the real deal not a sport" when they just repackage bog standard Muay Thai
We're a forum full of very experienced martial artists, law enforcement officers, self defence experts, instructors, students, lawyers, scientists and so on. I think we can all see what's absurd. Carry on...
What a load of rubbish. Good luck finding legitmate Muay Boran masters in the UK. And I very much doubt my fighting ability would diminish in just 2-3 years time. You're trying too hard. You genocidal racist you...
You can show someone how to do the core techniques of Muay Thai in a couple of lessons. That doesn't mean that the student has learned those techniques. You can show someone how to do the whole gokyo no waza in a couple of lessons, but only an idiot would think the student learned any of them.
Actually on MAP it goes: 1. Who's your instructor? 2. How do you train. On the occasions when a generic style is suggested for someone asking about self defence the predominant hierarchy suggested based on the appropriateness of your average gym to the six core physical training needs (to self defence) is MT, Boxing, Judo.
MOD warning. I've already put a warning up about spam posting on the forum. When the majority of a poster's contributions are single short sentences they are falling foul of the TOS.