Muay thai vs karate

Discussion in 'Thai Boxing' started by 8limbs38112, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. EdScissorhands

    EdScissorhands New Member

    ...and side-steps, bob and weave, circuit training, bag work, floor to ceiling ball, timing, pad work, sweeping up the dojo, winding hand-wraps, shin conditioning, ball and chain dragging, pointless, endless, debating about a subject we clearly understand each other on, but for some reason just continue on and on and on debating the pointlessness of the fact that if either/any of us have actually trained in Muay Thai that we all know exactly what's been spoken of - and someone is just being awkward.

    Now what about that Muay Boran?

    Muay Thai is just a sport, for crying out loud! :p
  2. Unreal Combat

    Unreal Combat Valued Member

  3. EdScissorhands

    EdScissorhands New Member

    It is - it's deeply flawed with regards to street self-defense because you entrain a habitual acceptance of co-operative timing.

    If you really believe what you've been saying, you should really seek out a decent Muay Boran master - otherwise - whereas you can probably fight now (being a beginner and all) ... in 2-3 years time it's likely you won't be able to fight your way out of a paper bag :D
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2014
  4. shootodog

    shootodog restless native

    I think the better question would have been: how long until I make 'Kru'?
  5. John Titchen

    John Titchen Still Learning Supporter

    And you're seriously setting up your average karateka or Shaolin monk as a better alternative than MT for self defence?

    Pure fantasy.
  6. EdScissorhands

    EdScissorhands New Member

    That is a very complicated rhetorical question.
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2014
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    No it isn't - the fact you think it is is pretty telling
  8. EdScissorhands

    EdScissorhands New Member

    Everybody on MAP knows it goes:

    1. MMA
    2. BJJ
    3. JKD
    4. Muay Thai
    5. Boxing
    6. ....etc. etc.
    238. Wing Chun

    Within that context: full-contact is mandatory, religion is absurd and chi doesn't exist.
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    It's a generic term for traditional Thai systems and the chances of anyone actually having trained in it are slim to none because it effectively morphed into Muay Thai.

    Then Tony Jaa made a cheapo martial art flick and suddenly everyone comes crawling out of the woodwork claiming they do Muay Boran and it is "the real deal not a sport" when they just repackage bog standard Muay Thai
  10. EdScissorhands

    EdScissorhands New Member

    Does anyone know if Hannibal likes anything?
  11. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Knives, Bourbon, Coffee and Skyrim...provided the elves are killed off rapidly of course
  12. Simon

    Simon Moved on Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    We're a forum full of very experienced martial artists, law enforcement officers, self defence experts, instructors, students, lawyers, scientists and so on.

    I think we can all see what's absurd.

    Carry on...
  13. EdScissorhands

    EdScissorhands New Member

    perhaps take a trip to Japan the Coffee, though, is better in Paris.
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2014
  14. Unreal Combat

    Unreal Combat Valued Member

    What a load of rubbish.

    Good luck finding legitmate Muay Boran masters in the UK.

    And I very much doubt my fighting ability would diminish in just 2-3 years time.

    You're trying too hard.

    You genocidal racist you...
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2014
  15. EdScissorhands

    EdScissorhands New Member

  16. PointyShinyBurn

    PointyShinyBurn Valued Member

    Yes, you're being awkward by insisting it has some kind of tiny, compressed technical repertoire?
  17. EdScissorhands

    EdScissorhands New Member

    Do whatever you like buddy, I won't stop you.
  18. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    You can show someone how to do the core techniques of Muay Thai in a couple of lessons. That doesn't mean that the student has learned those techniques. You can show someone how to do the whole gokyo no waza in a couple of lessons, but only an idiot would think the student learned any of them.
  19. John Titchen

    John Titchen Still Learning Supporter

    Actually on MAP it goes:

    1. Who's your instructor?
    2. How do you train.

    On the occasions when a generic style is suggested for someone asking about self defence the predominant hierarchy suggested based on the appropriateness of your average gym to the six core physical training needs (to self defence) is MT, Boxing, Judo.
  20. John Titchen

    John Titchen Still Learning Supporter

    MOD warning.

    I've already put a warning up about spam posting on the forum. When the majority of a poster's contributions are single short sentences they are falling foul of the TOS.

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