While i was in china at a seminar a Kung fu teacher(bagua teacher) thought us a miao dao set but i cant find any history on the weapon the master said the chinese took it from japanese pirates?I think it might be right because of the katana shape only longer? Does anyone know some more about this weapon?
Possible, but unlikely - many "Masters" (Chinese and otherwise) seem to make things up as they go along or else jus pass on the myths they were told http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao_dao also see the links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changdao and the link to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhanmadao
Yeah thats a diffrent story It was the tongbei form but i personally dont like the form because its to stiff. But its an awesome weapon,and now im leaning more towards jkd so i think i will keep the forms i learnd but i dont want to learn more forms Thanks for the answer
The Chinese Miao Dao was invented during the Ming dynasty by the general Qi Jiguang to be used on "Wokou 倭寇 - Japanese pirates". Since Japanese pirates had a lot respect to the samurai sword, the Miao Dao was designed just like the samurai sword but longer and heavier. It scared the YKW, you've been here more than long enough to know this isn't on. -ap out of those "Wokou 倭寇 - Japanese pirates" back then. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NjTpwvLFBU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NjTpwvLFBU[/ame]
Thinking about the Katana copy myth, if you look at other times when China organised a mass recruitment and mobilisation a form of 2 handed sabre appears to have been a common choice. Maybe massed spear tactics took too long to train?
Interesting discussion on the use of Chinese 2 handed sabres during the late Qing, early republican and second Sino-Japanese war. WARNING Contains some unpleasant photos. http://chinesemartialstudies.com/2012/11/26/693/
I would rather face 10 peasants with spears and no clue than 10 peasant with 3 ft razors and no clue! Randomnly waving a sword around is a lot harder to deal with than randomnly waving a spear
Stand them in a line, shoulder to shoulder, work on a few good thrusts and such and you have a nice wall of pointy death. Quick to train, quicker than sword, and relatively effective for the time and effort you'd have to put in.
Also easier to rout, harder to move and within smaller encounters (villages, tracks or woodland) useless I can see pros and con's for both in terms of a wepon of war but if I had to equip a bunch of untrained yahoos with a weapon to cause problems it would be a sword
Sorry, I assumed we were just talking battlefield. Give them some pointy sticks and stick them on the front line!
Yes. He got extra marks for almost falling over at the start but I just kept waiting for the rest of the majorettes to turn up. In some ways it fits in nicely with this thread, if we think about combative viability which that clip had very little of when compared to the amount if flash in it.