Discussion in 'Boxing' started by EdiSco, Aug 26, 2017.
If it is life and death fight, no boxing points, McGregor will not lose!!!
Yea, Mayweather controlled the fight. He didn't do anything the first few rounds and let McGregor get on with it. Didn't get hurt , was in no trouble. Then when he switched it up and had figured him out he went for the kill.
Also he is 40 and has not fought for 2 years and lost some ability ,didn't really take it seriously and walked forward most of the fight.
McGregor is 29 and apparently an elite fighter who was training in some up to date gym doing all sorts of futuristic training methods yet had no power and gassed.
Was hoping the hype around him might die now but I think some are getting worse, because it went 10 rounds.
I'm disappointed really that such an arrogant plonker who said some pretty racist things get so much exposure when there has been some great MMA fighters in the past 20 years and now with a lot more class.
It brings in the money though so who cares.
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From the random rounds I've been able to see, basically the first four and the last two, it feels like people are measuring the fight in a way that Mayweather should have been able to knock him out sooner. That's not Mayweather's style I've seen over the last five or so years. He's very much a technical, long game fighter. Watching him stay toe to toe and switch from the Philly Shell to the Peeak-a-boo style of defense was pretty fun to watch though. I honestly think the only reason it went 10 rounds was a mix of willful intent to make the fight worth it for the fans, and Mayweather's style of fighting. I doubt Connor would last as long in a fight against somebody who is known for power and playing a rougher game, like Genady or Canelo. Mayweather isn't known for power. Could you imagine Genady or Canelo throwing at Connor in the 9th and 10th rounds when the guy was so tired he couldn't keep his hands up? 0_0
He is crass and materialistic but I think the claims of racism are a stretch. In addition personality aside he has been ridiculously successful in MMA and is an excellent, elite MMA fighter who deserves all the respect in the world for that craft.
I don't particularly like his personality either (or at least his public persona) but it seems disingenuous to disregard his achievements and demonstrable skill in MMA.
And if we want to talk about personality flaws I'd argue that Mayweather is the more unlikable of the two by virtue of his status as a prolific abuser/batterer of women.
They are both excellent fighters in their respective fields.
Did not know the rule until I saw aaradia's post, it was not intentional...are we done now
Of course mate, ps ^ how to use spoiler tag!
Even if that were the case it doesn't matter at all, because it wasn't life or death.
But be careful not to write anything useful or slightly... ah, never mind.
Have you seen some of his quotes in the build up? Check them out.
If he isn't , they are not great things to say.
I agree both do not have great public personas( if that's what they are).
For me ,his achievements and standing in MMA should be judged after his career is over.
Yea, how can you argue if he beats the guys put in front of him.
I'm knowingly biased and I do think he is overrated and people are band wagon jumping. But watch his craft if you like. It's nothing new in terms of the whole fighting spectrum, maybe just to MMA fans. And was proven to be lacking in the boxing arena.
For me there are lots of great fighters past and present from Boxing ,Muay Thai and MMA who's craft I would rather explore over his for now.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll be proven wrong. No problem.
I don't think that Conor even realized how much outclassed he was.
He actually thinks that he made Floyd fight that way because he would outbox him otherwise. LMAO!
Can't blame him for that though. The first three rounds gave him a lot of false hope and all the planet was carried away from the excitement.
He wasn't attacked during them and the jabs he landed against the boxing's TBE made him feel like the king
of the world.
But all those things were on a superficial level. 2 of the judges, Veterans Burt Clements and Guido Cavalleri, both saw McGregor only winning round 1
I can only give him the 1st and the 3rd.
If his mma career ended today he would go down with the fasted KO in UFC title fights history, he would be the first fighter in UFC history to hold titles in two weight divisions simultaneously, a feat he also managed in cage rage, and have a 21 and 3 record with what 17 knockouts. Not to mention he is probably the highest paid fighter in the UFC to date. Thats not a bad record if we are honest
He probably does and he probably doesn't care at all, this fight wasn't about winning, it wasn't about being outclassed it was about making a fortune from Connors fans and he did that beautifully as did Mayweather, Connor is going to make fortune from this fight, and another one from all the commercial interests coming his way, that is a hell of a thing to do from a fight no one expected him to win or do well in with the exception of the fighting Irish brigade,
Honestly the shear ability of the man to make money from a fight that meant nothing, that everyone knew was going to end up as it did, and which was never going to surprise anyone is breathtaking
Yea definily an impressive record. Can't argue with that.
If that's what justifies to people that he is an amazing fighter, all he does is gold, his craft is so amazing etc...then go for. It's easy.
It's not that simple though.
I could say Elvis was not a great singer or musician there have been loads more better, more creative, more original, more innovative, but all someone has to say is he has sold more, and had more hits than anyone else, more popular hence he must be amazing .Some people would never go beyond that as an indicator to his greatness. How do you argue against that?
It's not that simple.
I don't think I said anything about him being gold or special, nor I think has anyone here I simply said his record is as impressive as anyone's you could name in the UFC which it is, you could say Dana picked his fights for him especially at the start when he realised there was money there in the Irish community to be made, but then you could look at anyone's record and dissect it, the spider for example beat a lot of second string fighters: Franklin was never that good, Henderson over 40, Griffin and Bonner were more reality stars than true top 5 fighters and so on.
I think McGregor (in the context of MMA) is absolutely brilliant and will go down definitely as one of the best fighters of all time. His run was in some ways tailored for him and in other ways he was cursed. He's taken short notice main event fights more than once, saving a show and risking a loss. GSP wouldn't do that (Anderson did a few times, but he's also done steroids) and neither would Jon Jones.
At the end of the day he's relatable, he drops people almost at will and he has the gift of great chat. If you look at his accomplishments alone and ignore the hype it's still an amazing record.
No doubt! I'd like to do that myself. Done it with Pacquiao fights and always saw something new.
I don't know about that uppercut (perhaps if I see it again I'll agree) but as to the rest, you're right. But the point for me and my friends was that punches were actually landing. The great Mayweather wasn't slipping all of them. *That* is what surprised us. But you're right, they were not hard shots, and Mayweather never appeared to be in danger.
Mayweather outclassed McGreggor, but McGreggor actually boxed -- and that's why it was fun.
LOL, I'd read that he bet on himself to win, but I didn't know he picked an upper-limit as to the round! Dude is that good, I guess!
Floyd Mayweather Denied $400k Bet on Himself Before Conor McGregor Fight
Mayweather did not bet on himself.
Who bets on themselves? Ego much. XP
Who goes into a fight not expecting to win?? And 49-0 and p4p the best of his generation...he can have an ego if he likes lol
Just did a skim about how much aprox they would make, im looking into the wrong buisness, wew. He didnt need the bet. XD
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