In Sanda I used to push on the guard with reasonable success, and used it in the few sessions of Thai I did as well. Often drilled the concept of following back jabs (and hooks in Thai) but found less success, although that's purely anecdotal from my experience.
Yep and why I said the only people you can see doing it in full contact environments are those who don't train it as trapping as you see it trained in most wing chun tcma or jkd schools,
Same. I tend to pay down the lead and step out to try landing the right straight and I like to try to scoop the rear arm/elbow out to land the body shot on the liver side. Never tried following the jab back though as I usually just attempt to slip and land my own as it's coming forward.
I think trapping can work in the initial "interview" stage of an altercation. When there's gesturing, pointing and posturing. Slapping hands down or away to open up a pre-empt or other manoeuvre. One of the few real situations I had one time involved me slapping arms to one side as they reached for me and then pushing them away. It can also work, as other have mentioned in MMA and boxing where people are "dueling" and back and forth. It's been an eye opener to me watching breakdown videos seeing how much trapping and limb manipulation people like Foreman, Fedor, Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Lomachenko and McGregor do to open up what they want to do. But in a chaotic unprovoked attack by some numpty I think trapping becomes a lot less usable and useful. There's a lot of trapping like movements in modern kata bunkai but while I like some of that sort of bunkai some of it tends to get into the same problems as your usual WC type stuff.
I've drilled a bit of arm trapping at my Muay Thai gym, though they don't call it that. They call it modified clinch. We've also done drills where both attacker & defender are in long guard, and then attacker sort of sweeps the defender's arms/hands away with one hand while striking with the other hand.
So I hop on MAP after a prolonged absence and one of the first thread I open has a discussion about trapping. Feels like homecoming, really.
Sooo, the MAP meet was over for me as it is at a time we have an annual karate seminar abroad, too. However, it was just cancelled. Now the question remains if someone else will organize the trip instead and I'd go or not. Since nothing is really certain for me at the moment, the MAP meet became an option. To be able to consider things better, I would like to learn a liiittle bit more about it. I wonder how long the training by itself takes? And I understood it is only on Saturday, but is there also something planned on Sunday? I could always go explore London and/or visit some of IOGKF senior instructor's dojo, but I just wonder what the whole event is about
The MAP Meet is a great event and you'll definitely make new friends. It starts in the morning and goes on until 5.00pm, with a break for lunch. Sessions are 90 minutes long and there are two or three instructors teaching in each session, so two or three options in the morning session and the same in the two afternoon sessions. Happy to answer any other questions you may have.
Thank you, Simon, that sounds good! It will probably take some time for me to know if I can go on that weekend, but if I am (and the plane tickets won't rise too high by then ), I will strongly consider making an appearance
I went to my first meet last year - definately well worth attending A wide range of arts and skills being shared by some incredibly skilled practitioners. I highly recommend attending if you get the chance!
I am glad to see there are many positive things to say about MAP meets. I would really like to come one day, but so far for me it was a day of training in the UK with all of you or a week of training in my style in Croatia by the sea.... soooo - I hope you see my dilemma If the Croatia isn't there this year, though, I would really like to come.
Ask and you shall receive. After a chat with Lei today I can confirm he will be teaching at the MAP Meet. Trips & dumps it is then.